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Season 6 will kill some AP champions...

GG Noob Team·11/2/2015, 1:18:47 AM·76 votes·14,304 views

Just lemme sum it up.

  1. We lose mastery 5% aa dmg from AA that will make last hitting harder
  2. item 2004 deleted - yea i know, manaregen increase and base mana, but those buffs are meaningless, comparing to 100 mana for 35 gold on some champions, who really needs mana to not lose their lane.
  3. 6 flat ability power and 7 ability power overall losed
  4. no more 5% AP increase mastery Lots of item costs increase:
  5. item 3089 cost increase from 3500 to 3800 gold
  6. item 3285 cost increase from 3000 to 3200 gold
  7. item 3135 cost increase from 2500 to 2650 gold
  8. item 3157 AP decreased from 100 to 80, armor from 50 to 45.
  9. item 3165 cost increased from 2300 to 2550 gold
  10. item 3151 cost increased from 3000 to 3200 gold
  11. item 3174 cost increased from 2700 to 2800 gold
  12. item 3001 cost increased from 2370 to 2450 gold
  13. item 3003 cost increased from 3000 to 3100 gold
  14. item 3060 cost increased from 2750 to 2900 gold
  15. item 3152 cost increased from 2300 to 2500 gold Also some of the mres items are getting a significant buff like:
  16. item 3102 buffed, mres from 60 to 70, health from 450 to 500
  17. item 3026 mres buffed from 50 to 60
  18. item 3156 reworked so it gets extra mres and life steal
  19. item 3065 buffed, Health increased from 400 to 500 and Magic resistance increased from 60 to 70.

Just sum it up together, the total cost of a full build going to be higher by about 600 gold and more. This will cause a nice catastrophe that a lot of AP champions like Kassadin Cassiopeia Anivia Akali Brand Fiddlesticks Galio Karthus Lissandra Orianna Syndra Zyra TwistedFate Malzahar LuxAzir Kennen Morgana Swain Velkoz will be hit too hard, and some of them will not be playable anymore...

Lets get an example of her Anivia. Perfectly balanced, with potential and nice to play champion. According to the http://champion.gg/champion/Anivia site, people are mostly building on her rod, archangel, rabadon, void staff and zhonya when full build. The amount of AP due to the 5% mastery and zhonya AP loss despite rod buff is going to be lower by about 30 - 35 AP, also the total build cost for the innocent bird is going to be 850 gold higher, facing enemies with better mres items and overbuffed ADC's.

Im sad because it is a bad day for the game balance. I know, you are introducing the marksman rework and stuff like this, but you riot dont care about people LIKE ME who dont want to play them, and found myself better playing mages in your game. It is unfair, why people who are enjoying playing balanced champions going to have their enjoyment totally demolished for no fukin reason. Im sorry but i will give up playing this game in season 6, best regards your mages lover player.

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92 Comments

7ha7guy77711/2/2015, 1:29:43 AM17 votes

Supposedly gold generation/min is going up and kill gold (or was it bounties?) is going up. Mages are also losing expanded mind and meditation in exchange for meditation with a cooldown. We can get 45% cdr at the cost of choosing between 5% cdr or ap/level or mpen (can't remember which and i don't have access to s@20 atm). Deathfire can add 3+ 36% ap scaling to any 4 second DoT or 6+ 20% burn over 3 seconds for instant damage. I don't know if brand's passive counts for that but if it does... There's not really any good way to tell if it's anything beyond a power shift without playing some games as them. It might take a while to get used to the changes and hopefully if mages are struggling they'll receive the help they need.

Crett11/2/2015, 1:21:32 AM13 votes

Ambient Gold is going up

Oelyk11/2/2015, 3:34:35 PM11 votes

League Of Zed and Yasuo inc

Smitemuffin11/2/2015, 2:19:49 PM6 votes

Ah, the day when magic dealers still need mana to deal any damage, but items now have more MR than Armor...

yogozin11/2/2015, 6:22:56 PM6 votes

"Dazed, reeling, about to break." = All AP characters.

Stay strong, AP characters. Now comes the real test of skill.

"Injury and despondance set the stage for heroism...or cowardice." Heroism = Continuing on the hard journey of continuing to be AP. Cowardice = Succumbing to the newfound evil that is ADCs, and other champs that may be classified as so.

"Perched at the very precipice of oblivion." Is the mage race.

"This is no place for the weak or foolhardy." No role*

"These nightmarish creatures can be felled! They can be beaten!"

"Death waits for the slightest lapse in concentration." We mages actually need skill, and we die if we don't pay attention.

"And now the true test: hold fast or expire."

Leu0711/2/2015, 9:23:25 PM4 votes

Cassiopeia 's been fucked since her rework.

Icestar118611/2/2015, 6:11:06 PM3 votes

They're also increasing gold production, so it might not be as bad as you expect gold-wise. I am nervous about the mana thing though.

Dingding12311/2/2015, 10:54:44 PM2 votes

imean, Galio can at least buy the new buffed MR items.

It's everyone else that's screwed LOLOL

Zair Umbras11/3/2015, 2:19:49 AM2 votes

I feel... I feel like everyone is completely missing the part where... like... every AD item had its price increased except for Infinity Edge, which had its total AD reduced and its price reduced as well to compensate since it won't be nearly as good early on or even later on. LW was also changed to only affect bonus whereas Void still gets to affect total, plus most tanks max around 50ish MR while their armor gets up to 90-100 on top of the LW not affecting that 90-100, which is around 50% reduction by the way while 50 is only 33.3% reduction. Armor is also much easier to get and more common...

I mean, mages are going to be fine. They get a free 20% ratio added to their combos with the new Deathfire keystone plus 2.5% boost in damage on CC'd targets, so if you stun them or even just slow them, you get a free 2.5% boost, plus early mana added on top of the corruption potion being incredibly amazing on these mages...

When it comes down to it more-so though. Gold generation was heavily increased. an extra 1 per 10s on top of more gold for shut downs and shut downs and if some one gets 2 kills, they can be shutdown for an additional 50g. They get to start with a snowball item that's nearly the equivalent of a Doran's Ring, plus it makes the potions give you more, including the refillable pots like the Corruption one.... lol.

Keitron11/3/2015, 3:23:10 AM2 votes

RIP Galio he goes down if all the mages go down.

WookieJesuz11/2/2015, 5:25:55 AM2 votes

This didn't... have to happen.... They could have just left tanks and mages alone and kept AD the same...

Axxlon11/3/2015, 1:51:52 AM2 votes

Actually, TwistedFate ends up benefiting in a unique manner, since he has to ability to go either AD or AP. In fact, that new Shiv item that increase the range of your next auto-attack will end up benefiting his gold-card-play immensely. :^)

Scarefish11/26/2015, 9:52:17 AM1 votes

Galio was already unplayable.

HaIlMonitor11/2/2015, 2:21:43 AM1 votes

I wish I could care.

Krigjer11/2/2015, 9:43:25 PM1 votes

Legitimate question: What's the point of increasing the price on items but increasing how much gold you get from all sources as well? Doesn't that cancel each other out?

Curling Veigar11/2/2015, 10:44:26 PM1 votes

Anivia perfectly balanced? Look, I fully agree and understand your post, but Anivia is definitely NOT perfectly balanced.

alfavhunter11/11/2015, 8:59:47 PM1 votes

So muc for buying 5 mana pots every as alistar support and leveling E to give crazy sustain to my adc...

lM COINFLIP11/12/2015, 8:26:24 PM1 votes

Let's rework the adc's, nerf the ap items, buff MR items, and add a crappton of ad items while changing some as well. Even if you argue that "the ap items deserved a nerf" or some shit like that, the fact of the matter is that AP straight up WONT be played anymore. As an Ekko main I did really well as him. He struggles with mana early now and is just bad. He can't carry anymore because his build is incredibly expensive.

Riot why the fuck would you increase the costs of ap items. Why? They're meant to be early and mid game beasts but now that their builds are on average 10% more expensive, they're late game. OH BUT WAIT WHY PICK A LATE AP CHAMP THAT DOES BADLY EARLY WHEN YOU CAN PICK A NEW AND IMPROVED ADC? Exactly. You don't. Ap won't be played and/or their winrates will drop an average of 4-5%. I guess we will find out how season 6 goes but as of right now, I'm pissed.