Devourer is stupidly OP? BETTER NERF ARMOUR ITEMS. (and irelia)

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MasterYi Vayne Zed Rengar Riven Shyvana Vi XinZhao Are so much happy about this change. After that, they will not only kill squishes in a combo/few hits, but also tanks that are supposed to be "tanky", haha. Whata funny time to play this game. :D

Yet, Kayle XinZhao Warwick Jax Udyr are still destroying everything in sight.

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General Esdeath 16 votes

I wish they would leave tanks alone, because the tank meta is already dying as it is. The two things I hate about sated the most is that

  1. Afk farming junglers become broken
  2. I keep getting the people trying Vayne jungle (Phreak save me)
Noctix5 votes

Honestly Devourer just needs to be removed. The item is super toxic to the current state of the game. You have a problem when champs are being banned not because they are too strong, but because of how strong an item makes them. I'm sorry, but I have to question the persons logic it was to allow this item to pass though testing and let it make it to live. Was the item not tested at all?

Biffolo1 votes

It was, but if you don't snowball the first 15 minutes of the game, you deserve to lose.

Catrian1 votes

I'm kind of confused myself as to why they allowed another iteration of Feral Flare back into the game when it caused so many problems the first time around.

Noctix2 votes

I didn't really have a big problem with the old one. This new one though where it double procs on-hit items/abilities makes it so people can melt even tanks in about 2 seconds because of % damage.

Ben Sharpio5 votes

To be honest, the only real things of 5.16 that i'm hyped for are the new items. Not only for the fact that i like the stats, but I'm always up for adding a bit of diversity to the item pool. I feel like the new items are great, as someone who plays very tanky, i like what the new items have to offer and i will definitely be building them the moment they are added. One thing i do not like: Dead Man's Plate is being nerfed apparently. This upsets me greatly. The item has barely been out for a week and talks are already going on about nerfing it. I don't think Rito has realized.... They're already nerfing every other fucking defensive item in the game. To add Dead Man's Plate to the list is just a slap in the face to anyone that likes to play tanks. Dead Man's Plate is a great item. I play Sion and Alistar, i enjoyed the fact that i can move around faster, build momentum, soak up damage and output a fair amount of damage on my own without having to have a damage dealer holding my hand all the time. I have a lot of fun building it, and to hear that the stats are being adjusted is making me really annoyed. Seriously. It's almost like they're trying to remove tanks completely. You look at all the nerfs and you KNOW that nobody is going to voluntarily be a tank for the team. Who would buy less stats for MORE gold? Not a lot of people, so my question to you is: What the fuck are you doing? There isn't a lot of diversity in the game already. 123+ champs? Okay, but you see the same 10 every fucking game. And everyone is pretty much playing all-in-or-nothing champions. The ones that hop out of a bush and instakill you coughKatcoughVaynecough. So of course you build tank items to PREVENT THIS BULLSHIT. You're almost discouraging people to continue building tanky, like with making stupid moves like changing Thornmail to shit. It wasn't even a popular item, but yet you still decide to think to yourselves: "How can we fuck this up?" And clap clap clap You've succeeded. I literally have to build MORE items to make thornmail work fucking properly, not efficient at all. So i guess you can say all of these broken champs are laughing their asses off at us tanks because of how stupid we're going to look with all of our items being nerfed. Rito's disrespected every tank player in every way possible.

D0 NOT DISTURB2 votes

TL;DR

LilxPaprika3 votes

and the items that got nerfed most imo are randuins and frozen heart. the two that could help counter devourer. thread i made suggesting way to give frozen heart a bit of regen

have they given a reason/context as to why they are nerfing armor items yet? because i don't understand why. imo i'd also like it if they change the dragon buff that only gives % dmg bonus and have it give stats that is fair to any champ, with say 2.5% ad and ap and 2.5% armor and mr.

Calibretto93 votes

Didn't read but agree with nerf Irelia.

SlashStriker2 votes

can someone explain why item 3718 > item 3031

TehNACHO2 votes

It has to do with scaling, on hit interactions, and multiplication interactions.

Long story short, generally speaking in League, the more you invest in something, the more cost effective it is to continue investing in it. This is because, especially for auto attacks, you are multiplying your stats together, and the value of your items that synergize with your original investment rises exponentially.

It becomes the case that if you have a champion with already powerful on-hit effects, you want to itemize in a way that synergizes with that item. Since you want to get it as early as possible if you're getting it anyway, most people would immediately rush Devourer if they have an on-hit effect. Now that continues the chain, making you want to invest further and further into attack speed since attack speed synergizes best with Devourer, and this at the same time exponentially raises the value of Devourer. The end result is that Devourer will often be way more valuable than your Infinity Edge after fully investing into it.

SlashStriker1 votes

you invest in attack speed is wrong on champions that already have attack speed steroid. If you get too much attack speed on Yi for instance you will reach the 2.5 maximum making your Highlander useless. Logically if you already have attack you get attack damage and balance between both Stacking attack speed is fail tactic - personal experience. Sometimes even just 1 attack speed its is enough and stack attack damage is far more effective

TehNACHO1 votes

Do realize that when it comes to Yi, at least for his most efficient builds, he's only like 20% over 2.5 AS - not much is actually wasted.

And this is after you should consider that Youmuu's Ghostblade is often a key element in Attack Speed stacking builds, and this isn't S4 mind you, team fights do happen to last more than 6 seconds.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

I was 14-4 as Karma Mid last night and their 6-6 Warwick was still probably the biggest threat in the game. If he ult'ed you, you died instantly.

Champions who are no where near overpowered are quite the opposite just for building Devourer, BoRK, and a Wit's.

BuzzinTate1 votes

go into champion select as first pick ban rengar, talon, zed surely banning will remove counter play enemy bans yi, vayne, Wu surely banning will remove counter play I pick naut but dont call out my position enemies go shyvanna and ahri surely banning will remove counter play My team: teemo and urgot get selected amazing I decide to play jungle know naut jungle is on the weak side atm game starts going good secured 5 kills in 7 minutes game 6 v 2 13 minutes hit and shyvanna somehow pulls of a triple bot doesnt matter secured top tower and got another kill 22 minutes in super fed Decide to try and counter jung as im 3 levels ahead of shyvanna taking red shyvanna appears so i pop my shield shield gone in less than .1 second oh shhh flash over wall, throw dredge and glide to freedom Shyvanna effortlessly catches up without speed buffs giant tomato flies into my body 7 auto attacks later managed to escape with 5 hp

all it took was flash, chilling smite, dredge, my ult, my slow, and teemo to help me escape.

oh yeah and teemo died.

SlashStriker1 votes

dont nerf devourer rito thank you! otherwise they did started banning yi and that was problem for me

JedenVojak1 votes

?!?!

Devourer does magic damage, MR items have actually been improved.

foinhas1 votes

you do realize shyvana deals more magic damage, right?

Dr Poro1 votes

Riot prefers to nerf all junglers that became OP by devourer one by one. In the end, they'll realise that devourer itself is OP and they nerf the item, leaving all these junglers as incredibly UP.

Prove me wrong, Riot! Don't make the same mistake you've made many times in the past. (Kassadin remember me?)

Puppet33r1 votes

Stop crying about devourer and pick JarvanIV or LeeSin or Elise or any other strong early jungler and destroy their lanes, deny their scuttlecrabs and kill them in their own jungle. I mean this is getting ridiculous how much whining one noobtrap item gets here. No wonder Riot can't take boards gameplay&balance section seriously.

Noctix1 votes

Except with devourer it doesn't matter how good you do early game. Mid to late game, or as soon as they get it upgraded, if the enemy team is running one of the junglers op listed you die in 1-2 seconds even if you're tanky. I've been in multiple games where every lane won, and we lost because of their jungler only because they had that item.

Puppet33r1 votes

Who said anything about going tanky? You have to punish them for rushing devourer+botrk(and having 0 defensive stats at this point). You go for warrior+tiamat and burst those fools before they can say op. All of the above junglers have much longer engage distance, much better burst early-mid, way better ganks. You can easily deny anything you want from those devourers you just have to actively participate in the lanes and deny scuttlers and not just build tanky farm till late and then cry how they have more damage then you do. Most of the games I had vs devourer junglers they never even gotten to sate it.

Lynxonyx1 votes

Don't forget... they also nerfed the shit out of Cinderhulk, probably because of the new Hydra item... which should never have even been a concept in the first place. Let alone make it to live.

IcyPepper1 votes

Devourer deals magic damage... some devourer junglers deal magic damage... magic resist is getting slightly buffed... kind of.

I'm not sure how to feel.

Myrddin1 votes

it's a good item but not broken by any means

it has allowed some jungle diversity, it's a good thing.

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