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She'll have an easier time slipping back into stealth and reposition with that Passive and R change and the CD refund really rewards good plays.
What's really interesting though is Whiplash's change to a total AD ratio.
Meaning that 
is actually a really viable strategy once again.
Tormentula3 votesE giving AD is a nice return of AD evelynn players, duskblade/gunblade looks like possible options.
..but don't know if there's justification to go AD though since Q doesn't have AD scaling like old eve (for wave clear, it still did something if you went AD but new eve Q will do even less.)
If you do build AD, you're mostly just relying on E and E only.
Anonagon2 votesKinda disappointed in the E change, for two reasons.
The first is that Hextech Gunblade is a cancer upon this game and any change that makes it more viable for any champion is bad. Still waiting for the day when this terrible item is at the very least split into two different items, if not straight up removed.
My other disappointment with the change is from a philosophical standpoint, rather than a gameplay one - its sending a bad message. Riot made the correct choice in removing Eve's AD and Hybrid build paths in her rework. While this change won't likely completely reestablish either of those, it is in a symbolic manner giving in to the people who complained about the loss of AD Eve. I dread future reworks of hybrid champs where their alternate scalings are removed, and all the complaining we're going to hear about "But Eve got to have an AD ratio (even if its effectively not relevant aside from Gunblade)!"
The passive and ult changes look great though.
AceGeo1 votesTypical boards people downvoting with the crowd before even reading what he has to say. What he said is completely true. And I agree, it's a toxic item in the game, even though I enjoy playing champs who build it (i.e Akali).
The Yetii Rider2 votesWell, AD Eve isn't back, because the E is still magic damage.
Hybrid Eve is now the goal, which is weird. They say they don't want a tank Evelynn, but if they make Gunblade her core item she's going to essentially become a drain tank assassin like Akali. And literally no one likes Akali. Akali is SO Hot doesn't even like Akali.
AceGeo5 votesJust because it APPLIES magic damage, doesn't mean that her ad SCALING is negated. It scales off ad no matter what dmg it does. Essentially champions that DO ap dmg whilst BUILDING ad makes them very strong. Because #1 it makes it difficult for the enemy to build resists for both damage types (auto attacks and abilities) while all you have to do is build one damage type in your items. and #2 if she does want to build two different damage types, she can. And that makes her extremely flexible as per what types of unique passives you want. Now I'm not saying AD eve is going to work, but what I said above is true.
The Yetii Rider2 votesJust because it APPLIES magic damage, doesn't mean that her ad SCALING is negated. It scales off ad no matter what dmg it does. Essentially champions that DO ap dmg whilst BUILDING ad makes them very strong. Because #1 it makes it difficult for the enemy to build resists for both damage types (auto attacks and abilities) while all you have to do is build one damage type in your items. and #2 if she does want to build two different damage types, she can. And that makes her extremely flexible as per what types of unique passives you want. Now I'm not saying AD eve is going to work, but what I said above is true.
The issue is that Evelynn isn't exactly able to just stand around and auto attack people like she used to be. One of the main reasons AD Evelynn was so strong before was her ability to apply 2 on-hit effects immediately with her E, and then getting a burst of attack speed after. Now, Eve doesn't have many ways to weave autos into her kit at all (and her ultimate encourages her to keep a bit of distance between herself and her target anyway).
AceGeo1 votesYes, I agree with you on this. I think I replied to the wrong person hahahhaha.
Jackom12 votesAD eve totally isn't back, but gunblade will probably be useful once again, which is very nice.
Could this change make duskblade a decent buy too, or not?
Rebonack2 votesThis doesn't bring AD Eve back. Without the attack speed in her kit the old versatility will never be there. This is mostly to just make Gunblade feel like a less punishing buy despite being one of the best items for her.
And to the people saying they're glad Riot removed Eve's AD ratios: just wait until Riot deletes one of your favorite champions. Try to have a little bit of empathy.
Jorencice2 votesIm an OG eve fan. You know nothing about being deleted.
Rip perma stealth, stun and 500 hp per kill.
Rebonack1 votesIm an OG eve fan. You know nothing about being deleted.
Rip perma stealth, stun and 500 hp per kill.
Oh believe, me, I was around for OLD old Eve. Old Eve kept the general feel of Original Eve, but I felt like they removed most of the nuance from her kit. She went from a Skirmisher with a side of Assassin to a Diver with a side of Assassin. Now she's a melee Burst Mage with a side of Assassin.
ZapMyHeart1 votesThis doesn't bring AD Eve back. Without the attack speed in her kit the old versatility will never be there. This is mostly to just make Gunblade feel like a less punishing buy despite being one of the best items for her.
And to the people saying they're glad Riot removed Eve's AD ratios: just wait until Riot deletes one of your favorite champions. Try to have a little bit of empathy.
. Lost my empathy when the community didn't try to save the first champion officially deleted. It was the beginning of the end and players were too stupid to realize it. The community brought this pain upon themselves when they weren't vocal about that trash relaunch; only Karma mains fought for her...and were ignored because the playerbase was so small. This gave Riot reasons to continue thrashing other champion's kit without remorse because players didn't care enough.
Too late now.
[sg-soraka]
Rebonack1 votes
Too late now.
[sg-soraka]
First they came for Karma.
But I wasn't a Karma main, so I said nothing.
ACTI0NBASTARD2 votesBuffs are good and all. But they're targeting the wrong stuff. Le sigh.
Malicious Metal1 votesMaybe, just maybe, those are her intended weaknesses.
ACTI0NBASTARD2 votesTo be the only assassin in the game that struggles to engage and stick to her target without blowing her ult and protobelt? Sure. I get that they didn't want to overdo it with her release. But I still feel she has to jump through way too many hoops to do her job, unlike other assassins.
Malicious Metal1 votesAn assassin's job isn't to engage but to pick people off and flank. Which are some of Eve's strengths.
ACTI0NBASTARD1 votesWhen an assassin goes to pick off a target they do what? Engage that specific target. Which is how I was using that.
Thunderneedle1 votesYou can't flank with this invisibility range. They spot you miles away. And if they don't your w still betrays you anyway.
Surprise anyone with this Eve. Rly, impress me, make a montage.
I could give heart attacks with old Eve, receiving "wow you scared me"'s in all chat.
Emelie Cauchemar2 votesAll this does is open her up to being balanced around the duskblade gunblade combo which in turn makes her garbage whenever those items are bad.
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
Xurreal1 votesAnd I don't want to have to remove M.Pen Marks from my rune page just because it is in "efficiency" territory.
I want the choice to matter between AD Marks and M.Pen Marks.
O Fallen Scholar1 votesThey just made gunblade her core item with E change. How ridiculous is that? Build versatility btw.
Penns1 votesWait
She is opie now lel
Hovering Hentai1 votesGonna be capable of some great dragon steals now, really pleased with that ult change
Hexs Fortune1 votesThe big question is, can we get away with duskblade for that sweet burst passive, even though the lethality is wasted on her.
Xurreal1 votesPut. It. Back. Too. AP.
Solidair31 votesI think AP will still be stronger over all.
I played a bit with these buffs and AP feels better, too.
Granted runes reforged also helps.
Death by Glamour1 votesit already is viable
just wish they would put attack speed back on her E, one of the major strengths of old eve was the flexibility of her builds
Linna Excel1 votesNot sure I want the old AD evelynn back on this kit. Really not sure her being encouraged to get gunblade will be good for her in the long run.
This feels like riot's admitting one of the rework's main goals was a failure. They specifically didn't want her to go into AD builds anymore. Now she's slowly getting pushed back into hybrid.
