Why is it that the boards bitch about 
when the 
combination is cheaper and spikes harder?
is already more than countered by 
but champions have much less base MR making the magic pen combo much more lethal and difficult to itemize against since there's usually only 1, maybe 2 AP threats on each team.
Double standards
MrHaZeYo6 votesMost mages work in burst, when they run out of burst they have nothing to do. AD champions who burst also have powerful AAs to use in between CDs.
Also: 
, if you're gonna use Seekers as a counter, don't be bias and forget that AD have counters too.
feintfiend2 votesYou can't deny this item is ridiculously overpowered 
90 AP and 20% CDR is ridiculous
Why do all these mage items come with health? Why do mages get FREE health?
Remove the health and buff the passives
Also is cheaper and it provides better stats very quickly compared to
Düff McWhalen3 votesThe armguard vs hexdrinker shit is cancelled out by virtue of armguard having no passive/active shield that is basically an extra half a health bar. AND Hex gives more damage....
Eedat5 votesshield that is basically an extra half a health bar
Lol
AND Hex gives more damage
Lol
MrFawknSunshine3 votes 20 base ap + 0.5 ap per stack up to 30 stacks for total of 35 ap
20 ad no stacking or anything
so how does hex have more damage?
MrHaZeYo2 votesWell, Ludans is a rush item that indeed offers great beginning stats, but Mages need a item like that. Mages get HP because that is their main defensive stat. It's like that because Mages and Assassins (your main mid laners) burst, so having more HP helps them survive said burst. It's also like that because as a class, they have the worst health leach in the game. AD champs all have access to Life Leach items, so mages need HP items to make up for that.
Seekers offers better raw stats (with a small stacking effect) while Hex gives not quiet as good raw stats but gives a shield that during the early games negates a burst mages kill potential while it's up (also null shield rune).
Also, believe it or not, Guardian Angel is also a pretty anti burst item, even though it gives Armor. As say a LeBlanc, and the ADC has a active GA, even if I play my Load on the ADC in a teamfight, I can just pop the GA and retreat.
These all have anti burst mechanics and two of them are also Life Leach Items
Another LL item, and it helps by giving MR and allowing you to get out of CC, which most Mages depend on in some shape or form
This item is niche, I get it, but on aggro assassin that shield and HP help alot.
While this is mainly a ADC item, but if you can get the 1st hit, that's more burst negation.
Also, if you wanna complain about AP/HP items, go look how many AD/HP items their are as well, granted not every class would build more then 1 or 2, ADCs have LL items, Melee AD champs have AD/HP items. A common build for Mages is Morello, Sorc Pen, Ludans, Deathcap. Void leaving a spot for Zhonya's or Bansees, so while it would seem they have a lot of HP options, their build is generally so cookie cutter that you only have two slots for situational building without actually hurting your main damage output. Ludans, Boots, Deathcap, and Void. You could go two AP/HP items but you lose 10% CDR.
OniZetsu6661 votesYou can't deny this item is ridiculously overpowered
Also
Apparently you haven't played mages in mid lane lately have you? That health is the only thing that can keep most mages slightly alive because assassins/non mana champs are running rampant. If you think that gives us enough health you are sadly mistaken that might allow us to survive a zed ult if we are blessed by the gods.
Infernape4 votesTo be fair no mage straight up rushes Oblivion Orb and Sorc shoes unlike assassins with Duskblade. They have to get a mana item otherwise they'd be oom in a couple of rotations.
A Chaotic Mind4 votesthey just build luden
MrHaZeYo1 votesYa, that's what he's saying, they can't go double pen right away because they need their mana item (Ludans)
A Chaotic Mind1 votesboots->chapter->sorc->luden (cdr-dmg-mana)->oblivion it's not like luden isn't a big fucking powerspike that let them 100 to 0 anyone on the map while fixing forever their mana and giving cdr
MrHaZeYo1 votesWhich isn't going straight pen now is it?
Mages should have their mana helped, they depend on it far more then any other class in the game. They absolutely need the item to succeed.
A Chaotic Mind1 votes? they still get enough dmg to kill you, extra waveclear and mana fix. is just as big as a powerspike as duskblade. then they go oblivion and do true damage to adcs in mid game fights
MrHaZeYo1 votesADCs can take double MR runes now if there that worried, or go merc threads. Mages are meant to be strong while ADCs are meant to be glass during the mid game. Kind of the trade off for ADCs being monsters in the late game. Also if Enchanters or even Tanks were meta supports, we wouldn't have this problem because shields and items like Locket and Knight's.
xDogMeatx3 votesnow for the answer for ops post assassins have pretty much over 1 million items (exaggerating of course) over mages 
to name some and dont get me started on other adcish builds they pretty much win vs all
VolatileAkali1 votesBlack cleaver is shit for assassins, though I don't know why they still buy it. Watch LL STYLISH video with a Rioter talking about Assassins and Zed.
TheMysticWar3 votesWHAT issue
With a 450g item you make 2300g only give 25AP, 8mpen and 45ms ?????
Blood Magicks2 votesBRAP
xDogMeatx2 voteswe need a magic pen item that allows mana and ap like how theres a black cleaver varient.
MrFawknSunshine1 votes
this does exist but most mages cant use it cuz the aoe passive from it is about the same as 
so what ur asking for is something that has AP, CDR and MANA with magic pen ? well BC dont straight up give armor pen, it has to stack up to 24% most mages arent doing extended fights to stack a magic pen they are burst , and after full rotation of spells they have to wait for CDS
but based on what you want the build path would have to be like
+
+ 
where the passive of sheen is now a unique that gives reduces the targets mr by 5% stacking up to 3 times and gives MS on hit.
so we have 900g + 850g +1050g for 2800 gold plus 400 for a total of 3200 gold
it would give 20% cdr, 75 ap + 300mana + ms on hit and the magic resist reduction passives i do think if this was the case it would be the go to item for any ap bruiser/fighter maybe not long range burst mages
Infernape1 votesThat theoretical item would be god tier on champs like Morde, Gragas and Rumble that are built to be in drawn out fights.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesoh i agree .. i even stated it would be a go to item for any ap bruiser
but its what the person was mentioning an AP version of BLACK CLEAVER i was just spit balling an idea i dont think it is reasonable
MrHaZeYo1 votesBruiser Diana with Nashors as well, oh man.
Apocalypsic1 votesPraise be.
Warlord Rhinark1 votes should just be changed into granting Grievous Wounds instead of Magic Penetration.
It fixes the issue you're addressing, as well as granting Mages easier access to Grievous Wounds like ADCs and Tanks have in the form of 
and 
Sorc Shoes should have it's Magic Pen increased to 20 to compensate though.
xDogMeatx1 votes[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A3UQPR1P,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-12-28T10:44:27.801+0000)
It fixes the issue you're addressing, as well as granting Mages easier access to Grievous Wounds like ADCs and Tanks have in the form of
Sorc Shoes should have it's Magic Pen increased to 20 to compensate though.
we dont need to rework pen items but i agree with the change. we just need a completed magic pen item that has a black cleaver effect for DPS mages and a another completed magic pen item that has a defensive/offense function like how zhonyas has "outworldly" effects we need more effects that can do that. maybe a mini version of ryze ult only on the caster only on the completed item it could be called runemonum or something it looks like a rune rock with a symbol marked with a power glyph on it.