I mean I played Brand support for the 1st time, missed like 75% of my skillshots and ended up with a 6-6-12 KDA, did a lot of damage for just 6 kills(21k).
Imagine if I actually hit most of my abilities. Absolute decimation.
And that not even a Brand mid with solo exp and gold.
DontLewdOrianna9 votesYeah Brand is busted, his mana costs are too low, and the damage is stupidly high. His hitboxes are also pretty fucked.
Ragnaveil2 votesIdk if his damage is really that high compared to others, but i'll agree some hitboxes of his are pretty fucked (especially W, the main harass/damage tool)
Sewer Side2 votesHe’s a god damn immobile BURST mage, he does damage in exchange for no mobility.
Jesus christ you guys complain about mobility but don’t realize what a champion needs to function if they aren’t mobile.
DontLewdOrianna2 votesWho the fuck is "you guys" i never complained about mobility. And the fact that a champ doesnt have mobility doesnt mean they're not broken damage wise lmao. Just look at Zoe.
General Esdeath 1 votesYeah Brand is busted, his mana costs are too low, and the damage is stupidly high. His hitboxes are also pretty fucked.
his mana costs are not too low
Innocent Yurei6 votesIf you play against Brand enough, he actually becomes pretty easy to dodge. If you don't know how to dodge him at first, he seems really oppressive, but once you do he looks a bit more balanced.
Ilovemobas3 votesHis abilities are highly predictable just saying.
Saezio3 votesTry to play it in an elo where people know how to punish, AKA D+ and you will see how NOT-OP he is. xD
Ahri Baka2 votesI had a time as Jhin , he pressed R , the Flames bounced to 2 minions and 100-0 me
Meteora7072 votesImagine if I actually hit most of my abilities. Absolute decimation.
so imagine how broken a champion would be if played against beginner bots? yeah stuffs pretty good there.
JuiceBoxP2 votesDude, i am a brand main and i regularly carry games with him with 2 items.
He is borderline broken.
Kídá3 votesIn low elo a lot of things are considered "broken"
savvypoirate1 votesAre you normally a support player? Brand was a Mid-laner but his build path/runes/match-ups became unhealthy for him. People started playing him support but he still is supposed to be a solo-laner. Much like Xerath or Velkoz who are typically played mid they have high solo lane damage. With Brand support his ability to carry bot lane is very high but only if he wins that lane and snowballs it hard can he carry later in the game.
Personally I think that champs like Bran, Xerath, Zyra and Velkoz are unhealthy to the support meta but that is a whole other thing =)
ContDeCaterinca12 votesAre you normally a support player? Brand was a Mid-laner but his build path/runes/match-ups became unhealthy for him. People started playing him support but he still is supposed to be a solo-laner. Much like Xerath or Velkoz who are typically played mid they have high solo lane damage. With Brand support his ability to carry bot lane is very high but only if he wins that lane and snowballs it hard can he carry later in the game.
Personally I think that champs like Bran, Xerath, Zyra and Velkoz are unhealthy to the support meta but that is a whole other thing =)
Yeah, support and jungle main, but with traditional supports. I only played Brand because I am pissed by how mage supports just beat me in damage and outscale me, so it was worth a try for me.
savvypoirate3 votesMe too I am a traditional support main. I don't mind some mage supports like Morgana/Lux/Karma because they provide legitimate shields and "support stuff" but the rest I'm not a fan of.
Saezio2 votesOnly thing is, morgana support is played like an enchanter most of the time, same with Karma, especially outside the laning phase. Zyra is a great example of a true supportive champion that has 0 shields. She has tons of CC, tons of disengage, even some scouting ability with her plants. Her plants even block shit for your stupid ass adc :D
Saezio1 votesYou want to punish the brands and all the mages of this world? Play pyke, play thresh, play blitz, play nautilus. You will create ptsd on many people if you are good. You need to be good and dodge the poke though, which isn't hard in sub-D elos because everyone is extremely predictable.
Moonscourge1 votesBrand, Zyra, Ezreal and Xerath are probably the most well known poke champs in the game. They constantly deal damage, so their numbers at the end of the game will be really inflated.
Bob the Toastr1 votesLol you called Brand a poke champ but didn't include Vel'koz or Ziggs
Alüe1 votesYep but that would also completely gut him solo lane easiest solution would be to increase mana costs early game and lvl it out mid game. Problem is though games end around 15-25
Ragaren1 votesBrand's kit is heavily reliant on him hitting his Q for the stun. If he misses the stun then he leaves himself open and increases the chances of him missing his W. The higher the Elo the more important it becomes to hit that Q, and the more likely they will play accordingly to his damage.
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Ragaren1 votesHow does that not make sense? His only form of cc comes from his Q hitting a blazed target, Missing that prevents him from using the only cc he has leaving him easily open for enemy players. Add to that if the brand is going for max damage he will most likely miss the W follow up.
His short range and immobility adds to the importance of getting off that one CC.
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Ragaren1 votesI think you may be confused. You do understand that his Q is the one that initiates the stun right? I've played brand for years, his Q when it hits an ablaze target it will stun them. At higher elo's landing this stun becomes more and more important as players are more accustomed to his kit.
Missing the Q allows them to escape the W, and therefore the burst damage along with the passive (unless R is used with the presence nearby enemies).
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Ragaren1 votesI never said he was bad, I said his Q was the most important spell on his kit, since it provides the only cc and allows for certain targeting with W. I think you either misread or did not understand what was being said.
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Ragaren1 votesI'm assuming you are very new to brand or have little experience, the Q is most important because his character is limited ranged, immobile and very squishy. Missing the Q means missing the CC which at higher elo's means the difference between getting a kill and being killed. I'm curious as to what your highest elo match is if you seriously doubt the importance of CC on such a immobile and glass cannon type character.
Hayaishi21 votesImmobile with litte CC, range and no mobility or utitily should do alot of damage.
WeaselRune1 votesAbsolute decimation.
Decimation was a technique of punishment for failure for Roman troops. They would kill 1/10 (deci meaning ten), or decimate. The punishment was that the person killed would have to be slaughtered by 9 other fellow soldiers. The fear being that next screw up could mean YOU are killed by 9 others soldiers, or you have to kill one of your friends.
So there you go, decimation, killing one in ten. If thats all you pull off with Brand, I hope to see you on the enemy team :p
Some other words to consider: Absolute; Annihilation, or Destruction. More flavored options: Absolute; Ass-pounding, Eviseration, or the classic Ownage.
Hope that helped, no flame, just some hot wet thesaurus action!
ContDeCaterinca12 votesDecimation was a technique of punishment for failure for Roman troops. They would kill 1/10 (deci meaning ten), or decimate. The punishment was that the person killed would have to be slaughtered by 9 other fellow soldiers. The fear being that next screw up could mean YOU are killed by 9 others soldiers, or you have to kill one of your friends.
So there you go, decimation, killing one in ten. If thats all you pull off with Brand, I hope to see you on the enemy team :p
Some other words to consider: Absolute; Annihilation, or Destruction. More flavored options: Absolute; Ass-pounding, Eviseration, or the classic Ownage.
Hope that helped, no flame, just some hot wet thesaurus action!
Well played sir. . . . . . . . . . . Though by the English dictionaries decimation and annahilation have similar meaning.
WeaselRune1 votesHey you took it like a sport, I just like to offer word meanings sometimes when people get stuff slightly wrong cause it amuses me... or perhaps because Im a Dodeca-dork :p
English dictionaries sometimes give up on people using words correctly, and simply change definitions base on popular use... My reaction to that is "Half the population is below average intelligence, if half the population is using words wrong should we change definitions cause they cant get words right!?"
Now Im not calling you dumb, I of course use words wrong too, I have to fight myself from saying "massive" in the wrong context. An over used word, and usually incorrectly. Typical use has someone saying "A massive (insert thing here)." Massive means its physical and most importantly has MASS! If youve every heard someone say "Massive debt" as in owes a lot of money... Ok... Weigh the debt, what is the debts "mass." Its wrong to use massive in this way, but so many people do, and its just one example.
When people use words wrong it massively decimates my hopes for humanity....
Feel Apathy1 votesHe seems to lose to all popular support picks currently however.
Strange
Daddy Ants1 votesHad a game where I was an 18/7/7 6 item Vayne and a 5/11 4 item Brand matched my damage...
But, Mages are the weakest class in the game says their mains!11
