Is it me, or Jinx is too much of a carry?

ContDeCaterinca1·8/4/2019, 6:59:56 AM·31 votes·12,510 views

I mean her early is decent enough to get fed if you play well, but mid-late literally every Jinx player, not matter how bad, starts destroying teamfight, getting those juicy resets and double-triple kills in every fight.

I have seen Jinx players go even 0-8 in lane and finish with positive KDA.

She is pretty ridicolous (I think because of her rockets mostly) and she might need nerfs.

52 Comments

Daddy Ants8/4/2019, 9:46:59 AM24 votes

Jinx has been too strong for a while.

Dynikus8/4/2019, 9:29:01 AM15 votes

She's extremely strong right now, highest winrate of any ADC in most elos, with one of the highest pick rates as well. What's interesting though is she still has a very, very low ban rate despite being so strong. I'd assume it's because unlike champions like vayne or draven, she feels fair to play against because of how simple her kit is. No true damage, no real mobility, no one shotting, nothing that all the highly banned and complained about (despite being statistically weaker) champions have. For a late game hyper carry, I think she might come online a little bit too early in all honesty, and once she starts the smallest of snowballs, it's very hard to shut her down unless she mispositions horribly or gets caught out.

Aazzlano8/4/2019, 9:29:34 AM6 votes

Yeah there was a point in time where I just started permabanning her (as a jungler no less) because she had way too high of an impact on games. Her ability to stack her passive is just nuts and her dps is so steady that it basically has no downtime, meaning she doesn't really have any moments of weakness that you can exploit. It's just a straight statcheck and that's after you get past her traps. if you can't pop her instantly you're just gonna get melted.

i haven't banned her in a long time not because she isn't broken, but because there are more cancerous very popular champs that are higher priority (kayn, kat, etc) so yeah. but she is still bonkers, feels like any game with her in it is winnable (for her team) since she snowballs insanely hard in fights so it only takes 1 takedown before she goes out of control (especially with her movement speed giving her basically a huge defensive steroid in the fact that she can just outposition most other champs with Yi level runspeed. Actually now that I think about it, her passive is basically a stacking Yi ult, besides the ignoring slows... :|

reminds me of how Blue Kayn's passive is literally a resettable Zed ult. balanced....

preternatural8/4/2019, 9:37:06 AM6 votes

everyone says the true dmg in the death recap is fake news so jinx is working as intended and you just gotta git gud.

Jerry SeinfeId8/4/2019, 7:18:07 PM4 votes

There's no way a jinx solo carries. Her kit doesn't allow that in a game where assassins/divers exist.

so yeah she's strong, but it doesn't really bother most people like when vayne/lucian are strong.

FantasySniper8/4/2019, 1:39:33 PM3 votes

Despite the fact that she's supposed to be more of a hypercarry, she actually has higher win rates in the early game.

Nerfing her early game numbers and buffing her late game numbers would be the ideal change to her. Especially for her passive.

Cojak8/4/2019, 10:56:51 AM3 votes

I would say most of the time (cause exceptions always exist) Jinx has a weak early. levels 1-3 is when she gets stomped the hardest (unless she's ruined differently than a reg adc). Her** support** is what wins the lane and gets her to mid game. In my opinion certain tanky supports suit her best except for braum. Hard cc types that can push them past, or hold them to, a certain line so she can place traps and chain the cc. When laning with most other supports, trapping is difficult, and thus the lane suffers. It still falls mostly to the support to make the lane work even in those instances.

If you want to beat jinx, make those early early ganks and keep her shut down in lane. Then, unless your team is boosted, you should be able to group and mow down objectives without her making an impact in the fight. Again, in my opinion, Jinx is a niche pick. If she has the right support, and the other team lacks jg presence, she can get out of control by mid game. If that same jinx keeps it together and groups then she can be unstoppable throughout the match.

Randuin's and tabi are a must for going against a jinx. CC is a must for going against a Jinx. When you decide to fight her, commit 100% to getting on top of her and bursting her down. There can be no maybes.

14daysuspensionk8/4/2019, 10:57:22 AM3 votes

I remember getting superfed on Jinx in a game and barely dying so we ended game by just pushing bot in like 15 mins.

DUDE BRO8/5/2019, 7:44:45 AM2 votes

Nesrly no defensive capability or reliable cc.

Even kog has an instant cast aoe slow.

Sageace8/4/2019, 4:08:05 PM2 votes

The ONLY reason she is capable of suddenly "skyrocketing" (pun intended) KDA is because OF HER ROCKETS. That AOE can crit too I believe, but overall, she just has a more impactful teamfight capability for it.

I mean, I LIKE the idea her rockets can AOE, but... it's just harder to predict the AOE range and when you suddenly receive random crits when not even being the target, get's really frustrating. I wish there was a way to make the "Rocket" Attack more predictable. Or maybe a little bit more counterplay against her rockets.

Terrorist58128/4/2019, 11:50:43 PM2 votes

Jinx has 53% winrate and some broken champions can have 51% winrate

Ahri Baka8/4/2019, 4:39:43 PM2 votes

She had high winrate and pick rate for a while

Sintama8/4/2019, 10:59:11 AM2 votes

Play Yuumi. There, now the enemy Jinx is absolutely useless. You can literally bully her out of the game to where minions are scarier.

LazyW0lf8/5/2019, 5:15:08 PM1 votes

You can absolutely shred her early game if you have counterpick and can completely get fed enough to make her useless. There's literally nothing she can do into Tristana/Alistar, Cait/Morg, and Lucian/Thresh for example. You have to force her to fight early game when she has nothing but autos to fight you with, if you're trying to go even or scale against a Jinx you just opt into losing.

SiG DxD8/5/2019, 5:44:28 PM1 votes

too strong for a while now..

Baby Ghoul8/5/2019, 11:55:19 PM1 votes

Ban rates aren't always a good indication of how healthy a champion is, especially within the last 2 years or so.

ADCs in general aren't as much of a threat as they used to be. So many champions top lane come online much sooner and snowball the entire game. They have insane damage and hyper mobility, so they can easily 1v2 an ADC and support if they win their lane. It doesn't matter if you also won your lane, you're just outclassed unless you have a mage support with you.

Those are the champions people are banning. Then in the context of bot lane, pretty much everyone is banning Yuumi and Pyke if they love themselves.

Jinx is sort of problematic right now, but within the context of this current patch, she's the least of our worries.

iSValerie8/6/2019, 11:37:50 PM1 votes

summoner 32

Aletheiacracy8/7/2019, 7:47:41 PM1 votes

They need to up her Mana Costs. Her rockets are basically free.

coreym118/4/2019, 2:10:01 PM1 votes

I main Jinx and she is a pretty good champion but compared to other adc's she gets completely destroyed by assassins more so than others due to her lack of mobility, If you have like a Talon, Kayn, or especially Evelynn she has rely on her team to protect her and in team fights you can zone her completely from the fight from fear of being blown up, if she attempts to deal damage in the fight you can easily one shot her because she has nothing to get you off her. If she uses chompers simply dodge it, run around it, or the most annoying thing to deal with as a Jinx main is item 3814 or item 3102 if you are ap.

For example: Iv'e had Talon stand in front of me in a bush and I knew he was there and everyone on my team went to fight the teamfight and I tried to join them but every time I attempted to walk out of the bush Talon would approach zoning me from the fight. Once 2-3 people died because I couldn't deal damage he joined the rest of the fight and they killed everyone.

In a game an assassin can change a tank role from engaging a teamfight to peeling for Jinx If the tank engages rather than peels Jinx you can easily kill her and if the tank doesn't engage and chooses to peel for her you can probably kill the rest of their team easier since they have no engage.

Also going through wall with the champs mentioned earlier are an easy way to get on Jinx rather than just run up on her. Other adc's Tristana, Vayne, Lucian, Ezreal, Caitlyn, can get away or cc you, Vayne could pin you to the wall and or roll and or ult with it but Jinx is a sitting duck.

Xhaiden8/4/2019, 2:21:02 PM1 votes

She can be pretty decent (if played by a good ADC) - but she's far from being OP compared to other ADCs. If you check your history... in past 20 games you played vs/with Jinx - she was in the loosing team 3 times - and only won 2 games. The games where she did good "she had better team" - not to mention she was 2 - 3 lvls above some of the enemy champions. In a similar context - almost every AD is kinda of a hyper carry...

Draven - is one of the scariest early game hyper carries. Vayne - is biggest tank crusher mid and late game. Jhin - is good all-around .

Support Position8/4/2019, 9:01:35 PM1 votes

Nah. Armour and MR are just worthless.

Almost Creative8/5/2019, 1:58:24 AM1 votes

18% play rate, 53% win rate..pretty high numbers. But I think the reason she's been avoiding nerfs since the crit item revert is because of her non-existent ban rate and her lack of pro play presence.

GilxeN8/5/2019, 6:21:17 AM1 votes

Increasing ADC's range, what could go wrong?

Freeza with an I8/5/2019, 8:33:33 AM1 votes

Honestly, I'm fine with her besdies Zap! Zap they overbuffed way too fucking much, it also has Lux level hitboxes where if you aim by them it hits.

Seenan8/5/2019, 4:46:32 PM1 votes

I'd like to think she's how a carry should be. No mobility, really strong late game, has a bit of self-peel, ok early game