Why is it okay for Volibear to deal Assassin-Level damage while he buys full tank items?

Dankstin·6/28/2016, 2:27:56 AM·8 votes·3,691 views

Title. Just that. Nothing further. He is so damn wrong. So unfair. 100% of all games he's on the enemy team, if he gets an inch, he doesn't take a mile. He outright wins the game. He gets to have godly innate dive potential, a false death damn near, and he sticks to you like fucking super glue. I'm tired of seeing him. Why is this okay? Why is he not getting his cc nerfed or something? Reduce his damage. Fuck.

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Caítlyn6/28/2016, 2:32:12 AM8 votes

Because damage should scale with tank stats.

-Riot

CerealBoxOfDoom6/28/2016, 2:39:27 AM7 votes

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Title. Just that. Nothing further. He is so damn wrong. So unfair. 100% of all games he's on the enemy team, if he gets an inch, he doesn't take a mile. He outright wins the game.

against you maybe

He gets to have godly innate dive potential

voli ganks aren't actually that bad

a false death damn near, and he sticks to you like fucking super glue.

wrong on both accounts, his passive isn't a secret you can even check when its up and he doesn't stick to shit unless move speed is all it takes to wreck you

I'm tired of seeing him. Why is this okay? Why is he not getting his cc nerfed or something? Reduce his damage. Fuck.

git gud

CerealBoxOfDoom6/28/2016, 2:37:36 AM5 votes

because he doesn't.

SwiftKitten886/28/2016, 2:42:56 AM5 votes

first off while i do agree with some of the counterpoints people are making.. the OP is still right..

the fact that it scales with his HP is stupid. he would be perfectly balanced if they just removed the % hp scaling part.

Erockandroll6/28/2016, 2:32:35 AM5 votes

Something something, is a Juggernaut.

67chrome6/28/2016, 2:49:51 AM5 votes

Why is it okay for Volibear to deal Assassin-Level damage while he buys full tank items?

Assassin level damage isn't a thing in LoL, that's more of an MMORPG troupe where rouges do the most damage.

In LoL, there are 4 main DPS classes that all do roughly the same amount of damage as one-another in Fighters, Assassins, Marksman, and Mages. Were they mostly differ is there means to survive long enough to deal damage. Which is almost pure defense for juggernauts, a mix of defense and speed for the bulk of the fighter class, speed for assassins, a mix of speed and range for most marksman, and either a heavy focus on range or a split focus between range and defense for mages.

As a Juggernaut, Volibear does as much damage as other kill-based classes and is pretty tanky.

Given the shinnaingans Leblanc Lucian Ezreal Kalista can pull while they do tons of damage and remain untouchable, I'm not sure why you'd feel there's a problem with Volibear being tanky and doing the same level of damage. Sure, sucks when he's carrying his team and you're on the recieving end, but that's the nature of any fighter, assassin, marksman, or mage carrying their team.

He gets to have godly innate dive potential

You have convinced me you have no idea what constitutes as good or bad diving potential.

Briskly walking towards opponents while threatening to bear-hug them is not godly dive potential.

Lugg6/28/2016, 2:42:52 AM4 votes

The problem with almost every bruiser and juggernaut in the game right now is that they do too much damage for how hard they are to kill. Anytime you have a champ that is tanky and does good damage, it's not healthy.

Wex0r6/28/2016, 2:39:12 AM3 votes

Cos its tank meta ? 5 tanks wins every game if you can survive the first 10 mins. Sad but true :(.

Teemo

BeatzBoyFTW6/28/2016, 12:48:47 PM2 votes

Apparently, his total absence in competitive games proved you wrong.

Wolfess6/29/2016, 12:13:59 PM1 votes

voli's damage is pretty much his ult. He gets a ton of free on-hit damage from it.... I think it was 100+, around 125 maybe on-hit magic damage that spreads to other nearby targets... it hurts, lots In OFA voli can wreck heimer by just walking up to him, popping ult, and watching as heimer AND his mini turrets all get destroyed at the same time due to the bouncing/aoe lightning therefore destroying his source of damage and his hp regen passive gives him safety against his ult turret. someone correct me on the lightning damage numbers, too lazy to check the wiki atm ):

other than that just don't get too low for his bite execute.

The Bearded Bard6/28/2016, 4:07:43 PM1 votes

Because he has to autoattack you a whole three times to do that damage.

Styre Storm6/29/2016, 1:20:54 AM1 votes

It's so unfair for Voli to deal so much dmg, but on the other side... Look at the typical "Assassin" Rammus. He can kill carries within few seconds while not letting ADC/APC get away and without dying himself </3.