lmfao what is an adc gunna do about a spell shielded talon who goes stealth and 1 shots the enemy adc. Assasins don't even have that much counterplay as it stands and you want to give them a brand new lethality item and make edge of night absolutely busted. If the cooldown isn't at least 80 seconds on refresh that shit will be so busted on release.
Pyrosan4 votesEdge of night always had the spellshield ability though, it wasn't gamebreaking before all they did was change the pricing on it and add 100 HP to it lol
Summoner SpeII4 votesEdge of night always had the spellshield ability though, it wasn't gamebreaking before all they did was change the pricing on it and add 100 HP to it lol
buddy its a banshee veil but without any of the drawbacks of the lack of stats that veil has on mages now on 1 shot asssasins
hazerddex3 votes[{quoted}](name=Summoner SpeII,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9reHOgjI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-20T17:40:22.038+0000)
buddy its a banshee veil but without any of the drawbacks of the lack of stats that veil has on mages now on 1 shot asssasins sad
with banshee's veil. internal screaming.[sg-janna]
Edge of Daybreak3 votesLess AD less lethality and now it's not on demand. Okay you are right if you just ignore the drawbacks people already know about it has none. People werent building edge before it's just going to be built less now.
Pyrosan2 votes[{quoted}](name=Summoner SpeII,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9reHOgjI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-20T17:40:22.038+0000)
buddy its a banshee veil but without any of the drawbacks of the lack of stats that veil has on mages now on 1 shot asssasins
REMOVED UNIQUE ACTIVE - NIGHT'S VEIL: Channels for 1 second to gain a Spell Shield spell shield that blocks the next enemy ability within the next 7 seconds (40 second cooldown). Damage will interrupt the channel. You can move while channeling. If the channel is interrupted, the item is put on a reduced 5 second cooldown.
NEW UNIQUE PASSIVE - SPELL SHIELD: Grants a Spell Shield spell shield that blocks the next enemy ability. This shield refreshes after no damage is taken from enemy champions for 40 seconds.
buddy it's literally the same item except not awkward to use lol it'll be a very niche buy if anyone will end up buying it, it was never used before because it didn't do anything for assassins, now it has less lethality no one is going to want it
Deνiruchi3 votesIt is actually worse, depending on the situation, just like banshee is. Old Edge of Night let assassins cast the shield, which has the same effect as now, on demand as they were gonna engage, making sure they avoided damage. Now, again like banshee, it's just a passive you can't control. If you take splash dmg it's gone for 40 seconds, and there's a lot of splash damage in this game to break the shield and to keep you in combat reseting the timer, banshee already suffers from this, edge won't be any different. If the assassins flank you avoiding all dmg to break its shield, then it will have no difference from the old one you activated before engaging. What exactly do you claim that makes it so broken now?
Illabethe1 votesExcept Banshees wasn't on demand use, and could be negated by any throw-away spell cast? Personally I think the old EoN 5 second window ON ACTIVATE was far stronger, because you could save it until you needed it.
Paroe4 votesEdge of night always had the spellshield ability though, it wasn't gamebreaking before all they did was change the pricing on it and add 100 HP to it lol
Youre... wrong.
They changed it to 
spell shield, its now an automatic passive instead of a pre-engage active.
Pyrosan2 votesYoure... wrong. They changed it to
the previous edge of night already gave a spell shield, now it's just not on a timer of channeling which is fine, it's serving the same purpose so it's irrelevant to consider it "new and shiny"
no one is going to buy edge of night because of the lethality reduction, making it easier to use and removing the core part of why it was being bought to begin with is not going to make people buy the item
Summoner SpeII1 votesEdge of night always had the spellshield ability though, it wasn't gamebreaking before all they did was change the pricing on it and add 100 HP to it lol
u can't channel it to block things like malphite ult, it was actually weak before this change
Pyrosan2 votes[{quoted}](name=Summoner SpeII,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9reHOgjI,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-11-20T18:05:25.091+0000)
u can't channel it to block things like malphite ult, it was actually weak before this change
it's literally weaker now that they removed some lethality off it idk what to tell you all you can offer is niche situations to where it was worse before but generally speaking it's offering way less than before
it's still a spellshield, just offering less than what assassins want from the item than before and somehow it's better now lol
Summoner SpeII3 votesit's literally weaker now that they removed some lethality off it idk what to tell you all you can offer is niche situations to where it was worse before but generally speaking it's offering way less than before
they make it so you can't even engage on assasins anymore because they get this fat banshee shield that has none of the drawbacks that banshees has to mages. Mages have to give up alot to get a viel, a zhonyas, more ap dmg, utility like rylais, just for an item that gives enemies less counterplay, but this is only replaced by a loss of a few lethality and give assasins even less coutnerplay then they have right now
Paroe2 votesit's literally weaker now that they removed some lethality off it idk what to tell you all you can offer is niche situations to where it was worse before but generally speaking it's offering way less than before
it's still a spellshield, just offering less than what assassins want from the item than before and somehow it's better now lol
Did you know: The reason malzahar is 'broken' and has been nerfed so many times is because of HIS spell shield? Which functions as a banshees veil spellshield? Which is one of the most powerful spellshield types in the game?
Illabethe1 votesNo? Literally every quick fix rework has been tied to his minions..... Level 2 Drakes had to be put in check. Mal generally is a weak PoS and has been, ever since his initial rework, other than the fact he could level 2 drakes. Doesn't take much at all to remove Mal's Shield. 1 Auto attack. 1 spell. Anything.
Ashe mage AD3 votesExcept I'll want to buy it as an ADC now, sometimes at least.
Veloz Destello2 votesEdge of night: gets hard needed
Gold's in boards: lol new item so broken
Summoner SpeII3 votes[{quoted}](name=Veloz Destello,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9reHOgjI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-20T17:54:54.543+0000)
Edge of night: gets hard needed
Gold's in boards: lol new item so broken
ive been masters and high diamond most of s9, right now season is kekw so im d3, look at tier graph, just imagine this new item on pyke
Veloz Destello1 votesLiterally its the same item with less AD, less letality and the active made a passive (Which is a nerf, since before you could choose when to use it. Now if a Luden hits you you're fucked up) and in exchange, 100 hp more
Summoner SpeII1 votesliterally the only good usage of the old edge of night was to block karthus ult
Illabethe1 votesNah. There's a reason Banshee's Veil never caught on as anything but a Novelty: Any non DOT spell can trigger it at any time, wasting its use.
Ie...... I can throw a Nami W, and it's down, and now you're prone to my Q and R, and my W will be back up soon.
Not all spells have to be cast to kill. Some are just to destroy items.