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I ussualy critize Riot global changes / balance so here we go.. Preseason ll suck...

Poske··2 votes·2,111 views

I ll quote what riot says obviously

> Outer turrets now start the game with a barricade that adds 5 small health bars on top of the turret’s main health. Each piece of the barricade can be destroyed and rewards the local players some gold. Roughly around the 10 minute mark, these barricades go away, removing both the extra defense and the opportunity for the gold rewards. This is giving us a more protected and slightly longer laning phase, but still rewards those early push or strong lanes types with the opportunity to destroy a lot of barricade segments and reap the gold rewards. On top of that, we’re finding that there are a lot of interesting new small moments of back and forth under the tower trying to destroy as many barricade pieces as you can. Additionally we’re exploring some slight damage increases on turrets in the early game so that tower dives aren't more powerful. We still like them to be present, but there are cases right now where it seems like the attacker isn’t taking enough risk.

Now the problems Riot either highlights/creates with those changes. BASSICLY WHAT MAKES ME FURIOUS

  • While laning phase should last longer opening the map up for melee champions is quite cruical, melee champions suck harder then ranged champions on average and already suffer in many aspects. Laning phase should also be more FUN HOW ABOUT FINALY REWORKING FUCKING MINIONS, the concept of last hiting them is Great other then that they are all the same and so fking dull, they dont add any charm to laning phase (unless you are irelia/yasuo HEY LOOK AT THIS CHAMPIONS POPULARITY) and the minion block is a nuisance rather then mechanic.** When are minions going to get a fking rework?**

By reworking minions you could

  • Make laning phase more interesting (good excuse to make it longer)

  • Give support something to do rather then to have leonas lowkey afk and press one E buttom every 4 minutes in high elo

  • Supports could interact with allied minions for various effects (400 range all champs), ms boost, denying, courrier, forced minion block other cool ideas) Obviously diff minion would do diff things. Currier for example would also allow us to reduce death timers. (obviously those who farm cannot interact frequently)

  • Turn minon block into fking mechanic. I have examples on how to do that.. The examples also help melee champions and turn minion block in meaningfull skillful lane management. Not gonna post it since its lenghty.. but If someone personaly asks for it I ll reply.

  • Gaining extra gold by attacking barricades** also Bassicly ONLY WORKS IF YOU ARE FKING RANGED YOU DINGUSES.** Another anti melee bullshit FKING GHOSTCRAWLER.. there should be a way to hit those barricades while not being in tower range or some shit else.. RANGED META.

  • EXPLORING DAMAGE INCREASE ON TURRETS.. **. AAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHA I would legit fire anyone who suggest that in a single NANOsecond if I were in charge **

Ask anyone in HIGH ELO DO WE NEED STRONGER TURRETS THE ANSWER IS NO. only bad players who want to be turtled need em.

TOWER SHOULD NOT BE BAD MATCHUP NEUTRALIZERS / SOFTENERS (THATS WHAT MINIONS SHOULD BE SADLY THEY STOPPED BEING THAT WHEN THEY GUTTED THEIR DAMAGE IN SEASON 3. All I know is yasuo existed in that timeframe and he would get punished by minions early game due to his hyperactivity, since season 4 or something he doesnt get punished, towers are the only punishers AND BOY DOES THAT SYSTEM SUCK )

YOU already increased tower damage due to stopwatch / new dangerous game then you nerfed both options AND TOWERS FKING MELT EVERYTHING EARLY GAME. You can be full HP YET you cant dive 20% hp target at level 5-9 because it ll go bad. I can understand that going bad at very early levels..

INB4 SOMEONE BUT RIOT REWORKED AKALI stfu EVERYONE I DONT HAVE TIME FOR RETARDED OPINIONS

What we need is anti towerdiving mechanic IF MULTIPLE PEOPLE TOWERDIVE. rather then ramping damage against single target, ** towers should have swap focused ramping damage against multiple divers** - constant swap ramping damage

Lets see what else Riot says

> Comebacks are more achievable and satisfying

Yes at your average platinum tester elo games are always comebackable.. We need to see this on live servers to confirm

> It’s worth noting that the lane phase changes mentioned above are actually doing some good work for us here. Fewer early first tower takes are preventing cases where a big gank leads into big gold leads and the winning lane starts roaming the map and crushing lanes that were otherwise going even.

NO SHIT SHERLOCK Imagine that IT took RIOT WHAT 3 YEARS TO REALISE THAT TOWER GOLD IS BIGGEST SNOWBALL ENCHANCER?

  • all they had to do is check how often get this equally skilled teams have games where the losing team only takes 0- few towers

Instead of reducing the tower gold you CHANGED BARON, DRAGON, MINIONS, TOWER HEALTH, TOWER DURABILITY, TOWER DAMAGE Finally you ll hit a right spot..

> Another significant change that we’re currently testing is allowing bounties to scale off of more than just kills. Bounties have been a good tool for us because killing a powerful enemy is both skillful and leads to actively fighting for a comeback rather than passively farming. Especially in higher level play, a lot of the game’s snowball is coming from non kill places, so we think it’s an improvement to the system to integrate all of the gold sources. We’re doing this carefully so that we don’t end up punishing players for farming, which you should still do.

IDK excatly how bounty system works anymore but I fore sure know its retarded?

** Why would you get punished for Being ahead by giving the enemy MILIONS of gold ** ** WHY IS IT SO EASY TO RESET A FKING BOUNTY ** ** Champions can be worth 50-1500 gold or some shit? WHAT? Just saying tha can make anyone question your system.

WHATS NEXT I LL GO 0,5 But I ll destroy a tower suddendly a bounty resset? I ll last hit bunch minions but get this I ll miss all the sieges not actually getting back into a game suddendly bounty resset?

Remove extremes and curves, graphical wise

This is how my system would look

0,0 You are worth 300 gold 0,1 You are worth 250 gold 0,2 You are worth 200 gold 0,3 you are worth 150 gold (150 gold is minimun SO THAT CANNON CANNOT BE WORTH FKIGN MORE)

1,0 you are worth 350 2,0 you are worth 400 3,0 you are worth 450 4,0 you are worth 500 5,0 you are worth 550 6,0 you are worth 600 7,0 you are worth 600 and so on

Killing someone who is extremly ahead in Riot system looks like this OH SHIT I JUST GOT 1200 GOLD, then you kill him again and you only gain 300 gold ? WHAT???? Flatten the extremes.. why should an ahead player be punished for A SINGLE fking mistake, punish continous mistakes rather.

Just because someone who is 12,0 died doesnt mean HE IS SUDDENDLY ONLY WORTH 300 BUT, he also shouldnt ever BE WORTH 1200 GOLD (thats why I would cap it at 600)

Current system Riot has in place is extremly anti Diver/bruisery/melee/risky championy because this champions are melee so they are likely to die soaking the damage

Given the bounty extremes its quite swingy

BOUNTY CHANGES RIOT IS DOING ARE LITERALY ehm perhaps I should become a worse player not like it matter the bounty system riot has kinda prevents me from becoming worse? What an actual fk

> Overall we want bounties to increase slightly so may lower kill bounties to compensate for the new system.

The number of bounties. Oh boy cant wait for a bounty chat spam you cant evne talk to people anymore and ping a summoners because SHUTDOWN!

> We’re also testing some reductions in global tower gold, as it’s one of our most powerful snowball sources currently and it deemphasizes the individual differences between players on the team.

IT ONLY TOOK YOU 3 FKING YEARS TO NAVIGATE A FKING SNOWBALL PROBLEM. THE FACT THAT BOARDS KEPT ASKING FOR TOWER DAMAGE , DURABILITY INCREASE DIDNT HELP, JUST LISTEN TO PLAYERS WHO HAVE WAY TO MANY GAMES ASK THOSE FOR FEEDBACK.

> Decided games resolve faster Melee and cannon minion health scales up much higher in the mid and late game. These changes allow games to end more naturally and we’ve been seeing fewer games where a team has clearly lost but it drags on for too long because waveclear is stalling out every wave or the ahead team has to wait for Baron to respawn.

Bassicly go commit suicide if you are a mage / ap assassin OH look I AM PLAYING LE BLANC I only need to use 4 distortions to kill FKING MELEE/CANNON MINIONS HIHIHIHIHIH.

THIS CHANGE GUTS ANY AP CHAMPION WHOS WAVECLEAR DOESNT SCALE PAST LEVEL FKING 9

OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR BARON TO RESPAWN.. BUT LETS INCREASE THE TOWER DAMAGE THEN THEY WONT WANT TO WAIT OMEGALUL YOU JUST SAID THAT PERHAPS TOWERS SHOULD DO MORE DAMAGE. NOT LIKE THE MAP LAYOUT INHIBITOR TOWER SETUP is incredibly difficult to FKING break for a winning team (other towers are fine)

Also the compettetive game being decided by a coinflip Smite cheeses Baron/dragon steals is XDDD 10/10 NICE GAMEPLAY, better overact if you are youtuber for that $$$$$, none actually likes baron steals, and the fact that baron impact is so high only makes baron steals worse.

Perhaps baron should be harder to steal but should have lower impact it doesnt take a genius to create such a system.

> Rune paths no longer dictate stat bonuses We’re testing new independent stat choices on every rune page. Still working out the details between 2 or 3 choices, but tests on both have been very promising. The stat choices are categorized into offensive and defensive stats. Both systems incentivize or require some mixing of offense and defense. We think this does good things for the game in rounding out player offense and defense while also leaving room for some pretty sharp builds for players that want to invest in one or the other. The current stats options we’re testing: Offensive - Attack Damage, Ability Power, Attack Speed, Cooldown Reduction Defensive - Armor, Magic Resist, Scaling Health, Health Regen

I ll go ahead and say........... NONE FKING CARES YOU NEVER MANAGED TO BALANCE RUNES/MASTERIES OR ANYTHING ITS JUST FULL OF GOOD CHOICES VS GIMMICKY SHIT, been here since season 1. Last few seasons all you do in preaseason is change this shit up and it still sucks

also Perhaps do something about softonic, corrupting, cookie combo in upcoming Forced anti melee meta, Enjoy being Marskman meta (Marksman ll enjoy this meta due to free tower baricade gold, and everyone else having fked up waveclear obviously Ranged AD get hurt the least)

> We’re moving the minion spawn and monster spawn times about 30-40 seconds earlier. We want to leave room for invades and other interesting early strategies, but in 95% of games players end up waiting around for 30s. In our efforts to make LoL the best game it can be for the vast majority of you, we think streamlining this phase lets you get to the fun quicker. Long term (probably not this preseason) we’re aiming to get text chat built in to the loading screen! This could turn dead time on the loading screen into fun banter and team strategizing.

LVL 1 INVADES ARE NOT FKING INTERESTING, you know what is interesting and would be a cool game start? BLOCKING FIRST MINION WAVE (would go well with minion rework) DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY GAMES I HAVE ENDURED WHERE MY TEAM / ENEMY TEAM LOWKEY GIVES UP BECAUSE OF SKILLESS INVADE

Difference between diamonds and masters is literaly. Master players actually watch the game first 2 minutes scouting the dangers while the diamonds are afk and on social media scrolling 9gag (Yeah that can literaly be a difference enjoy staring at grass for 2 minutes)

Glad about this change, its just not changing drasticly enough so Am I actually glad??? IDK

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MOLTinaTOR3 votes

Ask anyone in HIGH ELO DO WE NEED STRONGER TURRETS THE ANSWER IS NO. only bad players who want to be turtled need em.

I lost you here...

Poske1 votes

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I lost you here...

I expected to lose most people there since most people have 30 times less games then I do on top of being 3k elo less then I am

MOLTinaTOR2 votes

I expected to lose most people there since most people have 30 times less games then I do on top of being 3k elo less then I am

Even high elo players believe that turrets are not too strong and tower dives are so easy to perform with low risk. I asked Shiphtur the same thing and that was his thoughts exactly. He's a challenger player and you're a diamond player so I'll take his word over yours since rank matters to you that much.

Poske1 votes

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Even high elo players believe that turrets are not too strong and tower dives are so easy to perform with low risk. I asked Shiphtur the same thing and that was his thoughts exactly. He's a challenger player and you're a diamond player so I'll take his word over yours since rank matters to you that much.

Shiptur is washed up EX LCS players. HOW BAD CAN YOU BE NOT TO SUCCEED IN FKING AMERICA HOLY

My suggestions also make 2vs1 dives harder while making 1vs1 dives easier Towerdives are ussualy what Creates throws therefore your statement makes no sense

Eune Dia2 is bassicly NA challenger (You have so few players on NA its laughable)

I am also Ex challenger and I could coach fking shiptur. I do see him ocassionaaly on youtube channels which show some streamers He is washed up delayed reflex player. Oh I see he reached chall because of Kassadin. Yeah you know some people actually dont want to play EXTRA boring champions just for a rank like myself.

I feel fking insulted to even be brought up in the same sentence with anyone who is fking mongol at le blanc (like shiptur himself)

When Pro players talk about dives they think of Akali / Elise / eve resseting aggro and never about realistic stuff

Realisticly the enemy can farm with 20% hp while you can be full at level 9 playing 90% of champions and you cant dive them because the odds arent on your side.

Dont trust me? Show me some random shiptur montage ll show you all the mistakes

MOLTinaTOR1 votes

Shiptur is washed up EX LCS players. HOW BAD CAN YOU BE NOT TO SUCCEED IN FKING AMERICA HOLY

He is not washed up. He still got it. If you want a washed up player look at Imaqtpie. Him being an EX player doesn't really matter. He left LCS to stream, that's all.

Eune Dia2 is bassicly NA challenger (You have so few players on NA its laughable)

That's a weird way of spelling Korea.

I am also Ex challenger and I could coach fking shiptur. I do see him ocassionaaly on youtube channels which show some streamers He is washed up delayed reflex player. Oh I see he reached chall because of Kassadin. Yeah you know some people actually dont want to play EXTRA boring champions just for a rank like myself.

Funny how at the start you use the term "EX" to shit talk Shiphtur, but now you're using it to back up your points. Hilarious. If him being an LCS doesn't matter, then you being an EX challenger doesn't matter. Btw, he rarely plays Kassadin, out of the last 20 games he played, there's only 3 Kassadin games. To be fair, LeBlanc is hella boring. She functions the same as Kassadin. Jump in, do your combo, delete someone then get out.

I feel fking insulted to even be brought up in the same sentence with anyone who is fking mongol at le blanc (like shiptur himself)

Easy there your highness. Your D2 ego is getting pretty damn big right now. As for LeBlanc, you have 420 something games on her, he has less than hundred. Who would be better at the champ? I can literally say the same about any champ he plays a lot and you don't.

When Pro players talk about dives they think of Akali / Elise / eve resseting aggro and never about realistic stuff.

They also talk about early dives being easy and low risk even when not executed properly. Towers falling off too fast because a jungler ganked the lane and killed you and then proceed to push and take down the tower.

Realisticly the enemy can farm with 20% hp while you can be full at level 9 playing 90% of champions and you cant dive them because the odds arent on your side.

That is a huge over exaggeration.

Dont trust me? Show me some random shiptur montage ll show you all the mistakes

Please, do tell me where I said that Shiphtur is the perfect player and makes no mistake. He makes mistakes, you make mistakes, hell, even Dopa the solo Q God makes mistakes. You being able to point them out means Jack shit. Everyone makes mistakes.

Sorry for the rushed reply, I messed up two detailed replies and got too lazy and made this one. On the first one the battery ran out and on the second one I clicked out of it on mobile

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Poske1 votes

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He is not washed up. He still got it. If you want a washed up player look at Imaqtpie. Him being an EX player doesn't really matter. He left LCS to stream, that's all.

Both are bad but qtpie was rank 1 at one point granted abusing the Xayah and the other 2 meta champs at time

That's a weird way of spelling Korea.

Korea has 25 Mil. Eune has 14 mil Euw has 24 mil. (Most compettetive server no toxicity and no Internet caffe FF 10) Your server has like 8 mil

He is washed up delayed reflex player. Oh I see he reached chall because of Kassadin. Yeah you know some people actually dont want to play EXTRA boring champions just for a rank like myself.

Its his second most played and the only champion he has with winrate over 55%. Look I am not saying shiptur is bad but sure as hell aint better then me

Funny how at the start you use the term "EX" to shit talk Shiphtur, but now you're using it to back up your points. Hilarious. If him being an LCS doesn't matter, then you being an EX challenger doesn't matter. Btw, he rarely plays Kassadin, out of the last 20 games he played, there's only 3 Kassadin games. To be fair, LeBlanc is hella boring. She functions the same as Kassadin. Jump in, do your combo, delete someone then get out.

Give me footage of him saying towers are to weak. It musnt be old footage, and it must be his serious opinion. He never gave a bright opinion on game in a past. Most of his thoughts are UGHHH ZOE ONE SHOT ME HEALTHY..

Easy there your highness. Your D2 ego is getting pretty damn big right now. As for LeBlanc, you have 420 something games on her, he has less than hundred. Who would be better at the champ? I can literally say the same about any champ he plays a lot and you don't.

Well I had rank 1 Le blanc status multiple times on every le blanc iteration. None is better at her then me and tbh everyone is monkey at her from my perspective so I am probably not fair there, I should have said I never saw Shiptur do any amazing play.. I saw Yassuo do it, I saw TF blade do bunch of those, I saw ll stylish do skilled plays, Shiptur nah not really

They also talk about early dives being easy and low risk even when not executed properly. Towers falling off too fast because a jungler ganked the lane and killed you and then proceed to push and take down the tower.

Dives are low risk? What do you mean by early. Yes go towerdive at level 1-7 see how it goes ** Sorry but dives are only easy if 2 people are diving single 40% hp target on average**

Bottom line is whether you like my idea or not this is what should happen:

Tower damage should go down (Ramp should be removed), towers should gain slight 10% bonus armor pen New effect towers swap champion focus as much as possible and THEIR damage ramps while swapping focus

And there you go with my changes

1vs1 dives become easier - This helps good players (What about bad matchups? I can repeat it minions should be bad matchup neutralizors) The slight armor pen gain is so that tanks cant literaly tank 75 tower shots lategame more like 60..

They should soften bad matchups with minion changes Minions deserve rework above all champions.. specially above masteries getting reworked every year

2vs1 dives get harder, obviously with that change.

There is no way you can claim that change would be bad.. just no way

The tower size should also be reduced there is no reason for them to be 10 meters tall, so that players struggle clicking on enemy behind em

Keep in mind Tower damage against minions I am not TOUCHING AT ALL

Every single live design change for new preseason is complete garbage.. Could have changed the title name in such way

Cutting the start of a game is nice but even then they had no balls to fully cut it But hey support Ghostcrawler "bright" ideas

Downvote a person who actually knows how to improve league of legends

MOLTinaTOR1 votes

My god you're so full of yourself it's actually insane.

Both are bad but qtpie was rank 1 at one point granted abusing the Xayah and the other 2 meta champs at time

Shiphtur was also rank 1 at some point. Imaqtpie is bad, Shiphtur is good and he can reach challenger without abusing meta shit like Qt. Shiphtur's champion pool is pretty big.

Korea has 25 Mil. Eune has 14 mil Euw has 24 mil. (Most compettetive server no toxicity and no Internet caffe FF 10) Your server has like 8 mil

Ok I'm 100% sure that you're actually pulling shit out of your ass now. EUW is one of the most toxic servers from the ones you listed. I used to play at an internet cafe, out of the 20 something PC's I was the only one playing in NA, all of them were playing on EUW and EUNE. (I checked) They're so fucking toxic and shout like hyenas and type nasty shit it's actually insane.

Its his second most played and the only champion he has with winrate over 55%. Look I am not saying shiptur is bad but sure as hell aint better then me

He is better than you. That is a fact. He is challenger. You are D2. How Hard is it to understand that. You may be better than him at LeBlanc, but he's better than you at the game. Otherwise you wouldn't be hardstuck Diamond for 7 seasons. If you put Shiphtur in EUNE he'll definitely get challenger with ease.

Give me footage of him saying towers are to weak. It musnt be old footage, and it must be his serious opinion. He never gave a bright opinion on game in a past. Most of his thoughts are UGHHH ZOE ONE SHOT ME HEALTHY..

I would but I couldn't find it, it was on his stream and it was like a month ago. I will try to look for it though. It was definitely his serious opinion, he talked about it for five minutes straight and he wasn't being messing at all. He actually never said that. You're again pulling shit out of your ass. He doesn't complain like that at all unless he's being sarcastic and shit. This is coming from someone who watches him almost everyday.

Well I had rank 1 Le blanc status multiple times on every le blanc iteration. None is better at her then me and tbh everyone is monkey at her from my perspective so I am probably not fair there, I should have said I never saw Shiptur do any amazing play.. I saw Yassuo do it, I saw TF blade do bunch of those, I saw ll stylish do skilled plays, Shiptur nah not really

Please do provide evidence of that claim. If you had "rank 1" LeBlanc status you wouldn't be hardstuck Diamond and you'll stomp every game because it's D2. Your LeBlanc is diamond level and that's a fact you can't dodge. You would be at least mid masters if that claim was true. And there's a lot of LeBlancs that are better than yours, maybe not in NA, but there's a fuck ton of them in korea. Faker for example was never defeated on LeBlanc in the korean LCS. His record was 12-0 if I recall correctly. He's one of the best players and you can't compete with him. You need to tune down your humongous ego btw. Yassuo is one of the most boosted LeBlanc's out there. He loses lane on her almost always. His plays are mediocre. I agree on LL stylish. He's pretty damn good on her. Never seen TF blade play her so I can't confirm. As for Shiphtur, he did a lot of impressive plays on LeBlanc, I've seen a lot of that.

Dives are low risk? What do you mean by early. Yes go towerdive at level 1-7 see how it goes Sorry but dives are only easy if 2 people are diving single 40% hp target on average

Yes, dives are low risk. You can juggle out the tower aggro with ease if you have some HP and shields. Especially when you have champions that can drop tower aggro so other champs can tank for them while they run around under your tower and murder you. Meanwhile the turret is focusing the tank standing at the edge of the tower range. You can tower dive at lvl 7 if you're an Assassin like Leblanc Zed Fizz Ekko Akali

I've seen 3 lvl 6 champs dive 2 full health lvl 7 champs and they killed them with ease. The tower should've compensated for the missing third champ but it was like it wasn't there. They played the dive so poorly and still managed to kill both the support and the adc and walked out like nothing happened.

Tower damage should go down (Ramp should be removed), towers should gain slight 10% bonus armor pen

That is horrible. Towers will actually tickle of that happened. 10% bonus armour pen is so low and ridiculous. They already do next to no damage.

New effect towers swap champion focus as much as possible and THEIR damage ramps while swapping focus

This can be easily abusable by champs that can drop tower aggro. Making 1v1 tower dives even easier for Akali Leblanc Zed Fizz Diana Who can tower dive with ease because of their kits is downright stupid! That'll actually make the turrets even more useless than they are now. ALL sorts of dives should be hard not just 2v1's.

1vs1 dives become easier - This helps good players (What about bad matchups? I can repeat it minions should be bad matchup neutralizors) The slight armor pen gain is so that tanks cant literaly tank 75 tower shots lategame more like 60..

Like I said, 1v1 dives are already easy for the champs I listed. That dogshit slight armour pen is nothing to Malphite 500 armour and even Rammus . The armour pen is almost useless against champs like Chogath And Sion Who can stack a fuck ton of HP and since you want the damage lowered and amp damage removed this will make them even stronger. Especially cho who can Easily dive squishes mid to late game.

They should soften bad matchups with minion changes Minions deserve rework above all champions.. specially above masteries getting reworked every year.

Masteries got reworked once. They should be top priority because they're the reason for all this mess.

There is no way you can claim that change would be bad.. just no way

I just did.

The tower size should also be reduced there is no reason for them to be 10 meters tall, so that players struggle clicking on enemy behind em

LOOOOOOOOL!

Cutting the start of a game is nice but even then they had no balls to fully cut it But hey support Ghostcrawler "bright" ideas

They don't have to fully cut it. It's fine the way they have it planed. As for Ghostcrawler, he left the design team a long time ago you goof.

Downvote a person who actually knows how to improve league of legends

They downvoted you because you know Jack shit about the stuff you're spewing and your "bright" suggestions will make the game even more dogshit. Your Humongous ego is just standing in the way of your common sense.

Poske1 votes

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My god you're so full of yourself it's actually insane.

I have been playing this game since 2009 (Now its 2018) consistently without a longer break then 2 weeks I peeked chall 550 lp (top 50) This season chall 450 last season

Shiphtur was also rank 1 at some point. Imaqtpie is bad, Shiphtur is good and he can reach challenger without abusing meta shit like Qt. Shiphtur's champion pool is pretty big.

Didnt know he had Rank1.. I just really dont take NA server seriously.

Eune has 14 mil Euw has 24 mil. (Most compettetive server no toxicity and no Internet caffe FF 10) Your server has like 8 mil

Ok I'm 100% sure that you're actually pulling shit out of your ass now. EUW is one of the most toxic servers from the ones you listed. I used to play at an internet cafe, out of the 20 something PC's I was the only one playing in NA, all of them were playing on EUW and EUNE. (I checked) They're so fucking toxic and shout like hyenas and type nasty shit it's actually insane. Look I am not saying shiptur is bad but sure as hell aint better then me

Sample size one game. Omegalul. Also shiptur said towers should be buffed one challenger thinks that way LETS BUFF TOWERS... Stop using sample sizes of 1

He is better than you. That is a fact. He is challenger. You are D2. How Hard is it to understand that. You may be better than him at LeBlanc, but he's better than you at the game. Otherwise you wouldn't be hardstuck Diamond for 7 seasons. If you put Shiphtur in EUNE he'll definitely get challenger with ease.

Hardstuck? I am preseason Master, Peek chall this season peek, chall last season. OP.GG shows it

Thats not hardstuck Idk Eune has more players wont be that easy

He never gave a bright opinion on game in a past. Most of his thoughts are UGHHH ZOE ONE SHOT ME HEALTHY..

I would but I couldn't find it, it was on his stream and it was like a month ago. I will try to look for it though. It was definitely his serious opinion, he talked about it for five minutes straight and he wasn't being messing at all. He actually never said that. You're again pulling shit out of your ass. He doesn't complain like that at all unless he's being sarcastic and shit. This is coming from someone who watches him almost everyday.

He said that towers should have straight up damage buffs? DAMAGE BUFFS? OR ANY BUFFS? Thats allso not a bright opinion... thats the most basic fking opinion you can give.

Please do provide evidence of that claim. If you had "rank 1" LeBlanc status you wouldn't be hardstuck Diamond and you'll stomp every game because it's D2. Your LeBlanc is diamond level and that's a fact you can't dodge. You would be at least mid masters if that claim was true. And there's a lot of LeBlancs that are better than yours, maybe not in NA, but there's a fuck ton of them in korea. Faker for example was never defeated on LeBlanc in the korean LCS. His record was 12-0 if I recall correctly. He's one of the best players and you can't compete with him. You need to tune down your humongous ego btw. Yassuo is one of the most boosted LeBlanc's out there. He loses lane on her almost always. His plays are mediocre. I agree on LL stylish. He's pretty damn good on her. Never seen TF blade play her so I can't confirm. As for Shiphtur, he did a lot of impressive plays on LeBlanc, I've seen a lot of that.

Do you like people not have OP.GG? Does hardstuck mean something different in NA?. I was chall few months back

Faker is dogshit at le blanc didnt even abuse quadraproc a single time during reworked le blanc era, infact he doesnt even know what the fk is that. all he did was whine about a revert yet he had the most OP champion which he didnt know how to use. DONT FKING MENTION HIS NAME IN THE SAME SENTENCE MINE IS MENTIONED. He miss combos and missplays all the time. Look I dont have time for Le blanc arguing

Again show me his Le blanc montaage..I ll point out every mistake in detail. Hopefully he wont do to bad so I dont have to create a wall of test

Yassuo is worse at le blanc then Faker is but tbh both are hard to watch for me. I was never impressed by any Faker / Yassuo le blanc play. I was also never impressed by any faker Yasuo play but yassuo did impress me with yasuo few times

Sorry but dives are only easy if 2 people are diving single 40% hp target on average

Yes, dives are low risk. You can juggle out the tower aggro with ease if you have some HP and shields. Especially when you have champions that can drop tower aggro so other champs can tank for them while they run around under your tower and murder you. Meanwhile the turret is focusing the tank standing at the edge of the tower range. You can tower dive at lvl 7 if you're an Assassin like Leblanc Zed Fizz Ekko Akali

AVERAGE AVERAGE AVERAGE. YOU DONT HAVE THOSE FKIGN CHAMPIONS ON AVERAGE

just put it this way. CAN ADC dive at any point of a game (till level 14) without taking massive risk and with low chance of succedding? Can a mage dive? Can a hypermobile bruiser dive FK even those struggle

AND OF COURSE YOU CAN DIVE SOMEONE WITH FKING 5 PLAYERS

**DONT YOU FKING UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY BUFF TOWER DAMAGE 1vs1 DIVES BECOME IMPOSSIBLE, Just because 2vs1 dives are annoying Riot has no idea what the fk they are doing **

I've seen 3 lvl 6 champs dive 2 full health lvl 7 champs and they killed them with ease. The tower should've compensated for the missing third champ but it was like it wasn't there. They played the dive so poorly and still managed to kill both the support and the adc and walked out like nothing happened.

And how often you saw entire leads be thrown by dives? Idk this is just more common. People dive trade 1 -for 1 its not worth or worse

That is horrible. Towers will actually tickle of that happened. 10% bonus armour pen is so low and ridiculous. They already do next to no damage.

So you are a bad player and want to turtle under tower? 10% Bonus armor pen on top of the damage they do without ramp (except for swap ramp)

Also not every tower needs to have swap tower inhi towers can have the same focus it is curently

My change would focus on making 1vs1 dives easier but making 2vs1 dives harder

Riot change is about creating a meta where map doesnt open up for to long crippling melee champions while ranged champions can even get extra gold by hitting towers. Even at current state you cant really dive em... buffs to towers ll cripple the idea further

This can be easily abusable by champs that can drop tower aggro. Making 1v1 tower dives even easier for Akali Leblanc Zed Fizz

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Diana Who can tower dive with ease because of their kits is downright stupid! That'll actually make the turrets even more useless than they are now. ALL sorts of dives should be hard not just 2v1's.

NO thats just wrong thats what ll keep poisoning the game.** Minions should punish bad trades (they dont atm)**

Towers punishing bad trades is straight up bad gameplay and bad game design which leads to turtling and better players not being able to extend their superiority.

If Riot tried what I suggested for a fking mili second they wouldnt go back

The slight armor pen gain is so that tanks cant literaly tank 75 tower shots lategame more like 60..

Like I said, 1v1 dives are already easy for the champs I listed. That dogshit slight armour pen is nothing to Malphite 500 armour and even Rammus . The armour pen is almost useless against champs like Chogath And Sion Who can stack a fuck ton of HP and since you want the damage lowered and amp damage removed this will make them even stronger. Especially cho who can Easily dive squishes mid to late game.

Masteries got reworked once. They should be top priority because they're the reason for all this mess. OMEGALUL NO they got reworked 6 times by now,

I just did.

LOOOOOOOOL! But hey support Ghostcrawler "bright" ideas

They don't have to fully cut it. It's fine the way they have it planed. As for Ghostcrawler, he left the design team a long time ago you goof.

Ok then the next guy who is in charge should also leave. He simply didnt find a way how to make longer laning phase in non autistic ways and all he did is copy the previous designers by reworking runes/masteries for the 123713 time

Longer laning phase is good idea excecution is autistic, the extra shields on towers is extremly anti melee, since melee cant reach tower for gold Buffing tower damage is straight up bad idea, also autistic another anti melee change (Melees ussualy dive, rangeds ussualy turtle under tower)

Longer laning phase, buffed tower damage, tower shields are all anti melee ideas do you have any idea how that ll ADD up?

There is already were little reason to pick melee top.. Jayce, Kennen gnar.

They downvoted you because you know Jack shit about the stuff you're spewing and your "bright" suggestions will make the game even more dogshit. Your Humongous ego is just standing in the way of your common sense.

They downvoted me because I come slightly edgy and they are sheep people who automaticly upvote Riot ideas. I cant possibly speak about this stuff in a calm way their ideas make me to mad-

I do have an ego but I asure you it doesnt cloud my judgment in any way, If you knew me you would know I am one of the nicest people and extremly realistic / moral..

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Sample size one game. Omegalul. Also shiptur said towers should be buffed one challenger thinks that way LETS BUFF TOWERS... Stop using sample sizes of 1

One diamond thinks that way LETS GUT TOWERS!

He said that towers should have straight up damage buffs? DAMAGE BUFFS? OR ANY BUFFS? Thats allso not a bright opinion... thats the most basic fking opinion you can give.

Nope, when did I say that? He said that dives can be executed terribly and still succeed even in the early game and that towers fall off too early if the laner/laners get killed and the enemy starts pushing with the jungler/midlaner. Also towers stand no chance against champions like Yorick And Nasus If they kill you once after first back. They're guaranteed to chunk a huge portion of the towers HP. That is no ok!

Faker is dogshit at le blanc didnt even abuse quadraproc a single time during reworked le blanc era, infact he doesnt even know what the fk is that. all he did was whine about a revert yet he had the most OP champion which he didnt know how to use. DONT FKING MENTION HIS NAME IN THE SAME SENTENCE MINE IS MENTIONED. He miss combos and missplays all the time. Look I dont have time for Le blanc arguing

Are you kidding me? You feel ashamed of being mentioned with FAKER's name?!?! He is MUCH better than you buddy. The dude is challenger 1000 LP in fucking korea. You should feel fucking honoured because putting you in the same sentence with him was hard for me. The fact that he still succeeded without abusing that speaks for itself. You wouldn't survive at all even with LeBlanc in an LCS match. You'll get demolished. I wanted to stop talking about LeBlanc but I couldn't because your Ego is driving me nuts.

Again show me his Le blanc montaage..I ll point out every mistake in detail. Hopefully he wont do to bad so I dont have to create a wall of test

This argument makes no sense. I can show a clip of your LeBlanc to Dopa, and he'll point out all the mmistakes.

Yassuo is worse at le blanc then Faker is but tbh both are hard to watch for me. I was never impressed by any Faker / Yassuo le blanc play. I was also never impressed by any faker Yasuo play but yassuo did impress me with yasuo few times

Then you haven't seen any Faker yasuo play. Moe's Yasuo is not that great. His KDA on that champ is dogshit. He's barely climbing to mid masters even while spamming yasuo. Faker's yasuo is better than your yasuo and moe's Yasuo. Period.

AVERAGE AVERAGE AVERAGE. YOU DONT HAVE THOSE FKIGN CHAMPIONS ON AVERAGE

What?!? I don't understand.

just put it this way. CAN ADC dive at any point of a game (till level 14) without taking massive risk and with low chance of succedding? Can a mage dive?

No, those are not supposed to perform solo dives. That is not the job of immobile poke mages and marksmen. Some can with a few exceptions like Kaisa .

Can a hypermobile bruiser dive FK even those struggle

Yes, Camille Irelia Kled Riven Can do that.

AND OF COURSE YOU CAN DIVE SOMEONE WITH FKING 5 PLAYERS

I never said that. Don't put words into my mouth.

DONT YOU FKING UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY BUFF TOWER DAMAGE 1vs1 DIVES BECOME IMPOSSIBLE, Just because 2vs1 dives are annoying Riot has no idea what the fk they are doing

Nope, champs with high mobility like Zed and Leblanc Will still be able to perform them. It'll just be a bit harder and will actually require skill this time. It's true that 2v1 dives are annoying as Hell, but getting dived by assassins that can drop tower aggro is equally annoying. You're just furious that your baby girl LeBlanc will struggle to delete a squishy under turret after the changes instead of rolling your face on the keyboard and doing that.

So you are a bad player and want to turtle under tower? 10% Bonus armor pen on top of the damage they do without ramp (except for swap ramp)

But you suggested that the damage should get lowered.

Tower damage should go down (Ramp should be removed), towers should gain slight 10% bonus armor pen

Right there ^^^ 10% armour pen will not compensated for that at all.

You're taking two things from towers and only giving them one compensation buff.

Also not every tower needs to have swap tower inhi towers can have the same focus it is curently

So then we're gonna have towers with less damage and no damage ramp. But hey, we have 10% armour pen wooooooo!

My change would focus on making 1vs1 dives easier but making 2vs1 dives harder

I know what you're saying, an indirect buff to your baby girl LeBlanc who can Easily perform solo tower dives.

Riot change is about creating a meta where map doesnt open up for to long crippling melee champions while ranged champions can even get extra gold by hitting towers. Even at current state you cant really dive em... buffs to towers ll cripple the idea further

I don't think you know how the new turrets will work. You don't get gold for only hitting a tower, you get gold for destroying each bar out of the 5. It's 5 HP bars and you have to finish one to get gold. This change will favour melee champs more, I'll get to that later.

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I don't know what you mean by that.

Sample size one game. Omegalul. Also shiptur said towers should be buffed one challenger thinks that way LETS BUFF TOWERS... Stop using sample sizes of 1

One diamond thinks that way LETS GUT TOWERS!

He said that towers should have straight up damage buffs? DAMAGE BUFFS? OR ANY BUFFS? Thats allso not a bright opinion... thats the most basic fking opinion you can give.

Nope, when did I say that? He said that dives can be executed terribly and still succeed even in the early game and that towers fall off too early if the laner/laners get killed and the enemy starts pushing with the jungler/midlaner. Also towers stand no chance against champions like Yorick And Nasus If they kill you once after first back. They're guaranteed to chunk a huge portion of the towers HP. That is no ok!

Faker is dogshit at le blanc didnt even abuse quadraproc a single time during reworked le blanc era, infact he doesnt even know what the fk is that. all he did was whine about a revert yet he had the most OP champion which he didnt know how to use. DONT FKING MENTION HIS NAME IN THE SAME SENTENCE MINE IS MENTIONED. He miss combos and missplays all the time. Look I dont have time for Le blanc arguing

Are you kidding me? You feel ashamed of being mentioned with FAKER's name?!?! He is MUCH better than you buddy. The dude is challenger 1000 LP in fucking korea. You should feel fucking honoured because putting you in the same sentence with him was hard for me. The fact that he still succeeded without abusing that speaks for itself. You wouldn't survive at all even with LeBlanc in an LCS match. You'll get demolished. I wanted to stop talking about LeBlanc but I couldn't because your Ego is driving me nuts.

Again show me his Le blanc montaage..I ll point out every mistake in detail. Hopefully he wont do to bad so I dont have to create a wall of test

This argument makes no sense. I can show a clip of your LeBlanc to Dopa, and he'll point out all the mmistakes.

Yassuo is worse at le blanc then Faker is but tbh both are hard to watch for me. I was never impressed by any Faker / Yassuo le blanc play. I was also never impressed by any faker Yasuo play but yassuo did impress me with yasuo few times

Then you haven't seen any Faker yasuo play. Moe's Yasuo is not that great. His KDA on that champ is dogshit. He's barely climbing to mid masters even while spamming yasuo. Faker's yasuo is better than your yasuo and moe's Yasuo. Period.

AVERAGE AVERAGE AVERAGE. YOU DONT HAVE THOSE FKIGN CHAMPIONS ON AVERAGE

What?!? I don't understand.

just put it this way. CAN ADC dive at any point of a game (till level 14) without taking massive risk and with low chance of succedding? Can a mage dive?

No, those are not supposed to perform solo dives. That is not the job of immobile poke mages and marksmen. Some can with a few exceptions like Kaisa .

Can a hypermobile bruiser dive FK even those struggle

Yes, Camille Irelia Kled Riven Can do that.

AND OF COURSE YOU CAN DIVE SOMEONE WITH FKING 5 PLAYERS

I never said that. Don't put words into my mouth.

DONT YOU FKING UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY BUFF TOWER DAMAGE 1vs1 DIVES BECOME IMPOSSIBLE, Just because 2vs1 dives are annoying Riot has no idea what the fk they are doing

Nope, champs with high mobility like Zed and Leblanc Will still be able to perform them. It'll just be a bit harder and will actually require skill this time. It's true that 2v1 dives are annoying as Hell, but getting dived by assassins that can drop tower aggro is equally annoying. You're just furious that your baby girl LeBlanc will struggle to delete a squishy under turret after the changes instead of rolling your face on the keyboard and doing that.

So you are a bad player and want to turtle under tower? 10% Bonus armor pen on top of the damage they do without ramp (except for swap ramp)

But you suggested that the damage should get lowered.

Tower damage should go down (Ramp should be removed), towers should gain slight 10% bonus armor pen

Right there ^^^ 10% armour pen will not compensated for that at all.

You're taking two things from towers and only giving them one compensation buff.

Also not every tower needs to have swap tower inhi towers can have the same focus it is curently

So then we're gonna have towers with less damage and no damage ramp. But hey, we have 10% armour pen wooooooo!

My change would focus on making 1vs1 dives easier but making 2vs1 dives harder

I know what you're saying, an indirect buff to your baby girl LeBlanc who can Easily perform solo tower dives.

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Stop using sample sizes of 1

One diamond thinks that way LETS GUT TOWERS!

My idea does not gut towers. My idea improves them in 1vs2 scenario while nerfs them in 1vs1 dives

Thats allso not a bright opinion... thats the most basic fking opinion you can give.

Nope, when did I say that? He said that dives can be executed terribly and still succeed even in the early game and that towers fall off too early if the laner/laners get killed and the enemy starts pushing with the jungler/midlaner. Also towers stand no chance against champions like Yorick And Nasus If they kill you once after first back. They're guaranteed to chunk a huge portion of the towers HP. That is no ok!

Dives can be excecuted terribly and still succeed? Huh I see dives all the time Ussualy they have High risk attached to them and throw entire fking games

Do you wanna know how often chall players make 1vs1 dives? Toplaners do backfires ussualy but they have to try due to whats going on on the other side of a map. And I guess if you have Akali/Kled

Othen then that 2vs1 dives are hard and ranged champion just turtle under towers while in opposite scenari they still just poke melee under tower..

Are you kidding me? You feel ashamed of being mentioned with FAKER's name?!?! He is MUCH better than you buddy. The dude is challenger 1000 LP in fucking korea. You should feel fucking honoured because putting you in the same sentence with him was hard for me. The fact that he still succeeded without abusing that speaks for itself. You wouldn't survive at all even with LeBlanc in an LCS match. You'll get demolished. I wanted to stop talking about LeBlanc but I couldn't because your Ego is driving me nuts.

Faker a type of a player who likes rushing lichbane on ahri (Saying that was recorded ) but never once rushed lichbane on le blanc despite Le blanc being able to double proc it due to clone and having lower mana issues to a point lichbane was sufficient mana item recently

Faker a type of a player who item 3145 rushed every single game NEVER EVER DOUBLE PROCCED IT look he is fking subpar on le blanc the most fking overated Le blanc.

And no I ll never feel honored to be PUT IN A SENTENCE WITH A GUY WHO IS CLUNKY AS LE BLANC, SUBPOPTIMAL YASUO (doesnt even use special settings to easier navigate thro minions). He along with stupid Siv HD is a reason WHY my BABY girl got revertgutted extra delayed.

I can critize whoever the fk I want once you reach challenger you ll do the same

This argument makes no sense. I can show a clip of your LeBlanc to Dopa, and he'll point out all the mmistakes.

Dopa? The twisted fate abuser? Yeah sure I never even saw him on Le blanc

Then you haven't seen any Faker yasuo play. Moe's Yasuo is not that great. His KDA on that champ is dogshit. He's barely climbing to mid masters even while spamming yasuo. Faker's yasuo is better than your yasuo and moe's Yasuo. Period.

Yasuo firstpicks him every game. Faker cherry picks games where yasuo/le blanc and others are good

What?!? I don't understand. Can a mage dive?

Excatly can he? Can an ADC dive? Did you ever see this champions dive outside idk of level 14 / multiple people / some blshit kit mechanics like kindred ulti?

They can only dive 10% hp target

But you suggested that the damage should get lowered.

Right there ^^^ 10% armour pen will not compensated for that at all.

Yes lower the damage by 20% remove the ramp, but add a constant champion swapping ramp and 10% armor pen. This would pass a pbe test, I am quite sure in this number

You're taking two things from towers and only giving them one compensation buff.

I am removing a 1vs1 ramp I am slightly reducing 1vs1 damage (Riot did buff this shit recently due to stopwatch meta, are we still in a stopwatch meta omegalul?) I am adding 2vs1 ramp (Definetly for T1,T2 towers) I am adding 10% armor pen (Tanks should be able not to care about towers but it can get slightly extreme)

I know what you're saying, an indirect buff to your baby girl LeBlanc who can Easily perform solo tower dives.

Omegalul. I could suggest an indirectbuff for le blanc without anyone knowing I suggested that, but this has nothing to do with my mains I just care about a health of a game as a whole

What I want for Le blanc is Revert of revert, turn Q into skillshot, remove Rng bouncing,

I don't think you know how the new turrets will work. You don't get gold for only hitting a tower, you get gold for destroying each bar out of the 5. It's 5 HP bars and you have to finish one to get gold. This change will favour melee champs more, I'll get to that later.

IT WILL NOT FAVOUR MELEE CHAMPS WHAT AN ACTUAL FK. Unless they can one hit the entire thing at which points they ll lose half of HP bar Listen to me 80% of champions I like are ranged 80%. Yet I do not want this change to go through because it ruins league

The idea of making laning phase longer is good, their excecution on how to do it is straight up silver/bronze level

They should increase the Tower HP, Reduce tower damage (my way), Rework minions (I can write how but boy ll that be a huge post)

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My idea does not gut towers. My idea improves them in 1vs2 scenario while nerfs them in 1vs1 dives

I know, that's why it guts towers in solo lanes, bot aside. It's true that a lot of champs struggle to solo tower dive, but some assassins do it with ease. This change of yours will be heaven for them. Also, speaking of scenarios, let's say you have an ally with CC/slow and a decent HP pool like Alistar Maokai JarvanIV Nautilus OrnnSkarner Chogath who can tank a decent amount of tower shots, they can just dive and CC the lonely opponent while a ranged champ Viktor Jinx Brand Cassiopeia Draven Heimerdinger Jhin Jinx are hammering them with tons of damage from out of the tower range. Your towers that are supposed to help that lonely teammate in a "1v2" aren't doing shit because it's attacking only one teammate therefore the swap damage is not applied. Like I said, it's easily abusable.

Dives can be excecuted terribly and still succeed? Huh I see dives all the time Ussualy they have High risk attached to them and throw entire fking games

That only happens on some champs who's dives are completely ruined if they miss one crucial ability. An Akali can still perform a dive with no risk because she has a guaranteed way out. Same thing with Leblanc .

Do you wanna know how often chall players make 1vs1 dives? Toplaners do backfires ussualy but they have to try due to whats going on on the other side of a map. And I guess if you have Akali/Kled

Yes they do that quite often, that's exactly what I'm saying champs like kled/akali who have a decent amount of mobility can perform dives with ease, your changes will make that a lot easier for them. Especially akali who takes only a few turret shots because of shroud.

Othen then that 2vs1 dives are hard and ranged champion just turtle under towers while in opposite scenari they still just poke melee under tower..

I didn't understand this one properly, how do they turtle under tower and and poke the enemy under their tower?

Faker a type of a player who likes rushing lichbane on ahri (Saying that was recorded ) but never once rushed lichbane on le blanc despite Le blanc being able to double proc it due to clone and having lower mana issues to a point lichbane was sufficient mana item recently

He can build whatever he wants if it works for him. He is not abusing what you're abusing and is still making it work in LCS and high Challenger. That only speaks for itself. I also noticed that you're not building lichbane on LeBlanc at all recently. You're building Hextech GLP/protobelt and stuff.

Faker a type of a player who rushed every single game NEVER EVER DOUBLE PROCCED IT look he is fking subpar on le blanc the most fking overated Le blanc.

Just because he's not playing her like you do that doesn't mean he's subpar. He can play her however he wants.

And no I ll never feel honored to be PUT IN A SENTENCE WITH A GUY WHO IS CLUNKY AS LE BLANC, SUBPOPTIMAL YASUO (doesnt even use special settings to easier navigate thro minions). He along with stupid Siv HD is a reason WHY my BABY girl got revertgutted extra delayed.

His yasuo is clean, he doesn't need special settings to do good on that champ. Those special settings didn't help you when you went 2/10 on yasuo. If I recall correctly, a huge chunk of the community wanted LeBlanc reverted.

I can critize whoever the fk I want once you reach challenger you ll do the same

No because I know that there'll always be players who are better than me.

Dopa? The twisted fate abuser? Yeah sure I never even saw him on Le blanc

Twisted fate is not even on his top 7 most played champions, LeBlanc is his third most played champion with 137 games played and a 64% wr and 3.44 KDA. He is currently rank 9 in korean solo Q and is considered the best solo Q player in the world.

that's why Moe is d1 and faker is challenger 1000 LP.

Excatly can he? Can an ADC dive? Did you ever see this champions dive outside idk of level 14 / multiple people / some blshit kit mechanics like kindred ulti?

Like I said, they are not supposed to solo tower dive because they're long range casters that shouldn't get in tower range. Those shouldn't dive at all.

Yes lower the damage by 20% remove the ramp, but add a constant champion swapping ramp and 10% armor pen. This would pass a pbe test, I am quite sure in this number

That's how you GUT something right there.

I am adding 10% armor pen (Tanks should be able not to care about towers but it can get slightly extreme)

Believe me when I say that 10% armour pen is nothing to a lot if tanks. It'll not be extreme at all with the ramp damage being removed.

yea someone having Yasuo and LeBlanc as his most played champions clearly cares about the health of the game. LeBlanc is one of the most bullshit champs in the game OMEGALUL!

IT WILL NOT FAVOUR MELEE CHAMPS WHAT AN ACTUAL FK. Unless they can one hit the entire thing at which points they ll lose half of HP bar Listen to me 80% of champions I like are ranged 80%. Yet I do not want this change to go through because it ruins league

What... it will favour melee champs because they're the fastest at destroying towers unlike a lot of ranged champs who can do that only in mid to late game. You're acting as if ranged champs can one hit turrets, they can't. A Yorick with just a item 3057 and maiden will rape your towers if you die once in lane. He's one of the few melee champs who's this change will favour. I'm 100% certain that you don't know how the new towers will work.

The idea of making laning phase longer is good, their excecution on how to do it is straight up silver/bronze level

It's still work in progress, what they showed us is just a sneak peak and I'm pretty sure there'll be more. There's still 3 months to preseason.

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I know, that's why it guts towers in solo lanes, bot aside. It's true that a lot of champs struggle to solo tower dive, but some assassins do it with ease. This change of yours will be heaven for them. Also, speaking of scenarios, let's say you have an ally with CC/slow and a decent HP pool like Alistar Maokai JarvanIV Nautilus OrnnSkarner Chogath who can tank a decent amount of tower shots, they can just dive and CC the lonely opponent while a ranged champ Viktor Jinx Brand Cassiopeia Draven Heimerdinger Jhin Jinx are hammering them with tons of damage from out of the tower range. Your towers that are supposed to help that lonely teammate in a "1v2" aren't doing shit because it's attacking only one teammate therefore the swap damage is not applied. Like I said, it's easily abusable.

First of all you are bronze1. I couldnt even be bronze 1 even if I fking tried You should not think EVER that you know anything about league, its hard thing to accept that your opinion matters less

And yes My opinion ll also matter less if any youtuber/lcs player says something because this people are well known

look he is fking subpar on le blanc the most fking overated Le blanc.

Just because he's not playing her like you do that doesn't mean he's subpar. He can play her however he wants.

XD Yes he can play her like a trash he is idc his problems

His yasuo is clean, he doesn't need special settings to do good on that champ. Those special settings didn't help you when you went 2/10 on yasuo. If I recall correctly, a huge chunk of the community wanted LeBlanc reverted.

Keep in mind I had female support that game (Not that its her fault just saying its not a 1vs1 performance fk it wasnt even a 2vs2 performance), I also play Yasuo across 3 roles (my toplane yasuo is kinda not the best)

I am preseason master with High MMR so my stats cannot be impressive I can make a new Euw acc for example make a climb to atleast dia1 and brag about KDA WINRATE stats OPPPP holy shit

No because I know that there'll always be players who are better than me.

Twisted fate is not even on his top 7 most played champions, LeBlanc is his third most played champion with 137 games played and a 64% wr and 3.44 KDA. He is currently rank 9 in korean solo Q and is considered the best solo Q player in the world.

He is known duo abuser, wintrader, booster etc

Like I said, they are not supposed to solo tower dive because they're long range casters that shouldn't get in tower range. Those shouldn't dive at all.

AND WHAT MAKES YOU THINK SO? Basic logic? sure then brand shouldnt ignite nami

Back in season 1- 3 Diving with an ADC/MAGE was way more possible / easier

This would pass a pbe test, I am quite sure in this number

That's how you GUT something right there.

No you dont

It's still work in progress, what they showed us is just a sneak peak and I'm pretty sure there'll be more. There's still 3 months to preseason.

More trash changes which wont excuse trash changes they have now cant wait

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First of all you are bronze1. I couldnt even be bronze 1 even if I fking tried You should not think EVER that you know anything about league, its hard thing to accept that your opinion matters less

And yes My opinion ll also matter less if any youtuber/lcs player says something because this people are well known

I knew you were going to bring up my rank at some point. I know a lot about league. I play this game to have fun not to climb. I give zero fucks about ranked.

You're a diamond player and you don't know shit. Everything you said is downright stupid and it feels like I'm talking to a brick wall. Your skull is so thick I can't even break through with a drill. No, your opinion will matter less if it's just stupid and doesn't make sense at all. And your suggestions are exactly that and will drive the game downhill.

XD Yes he can play her like a trash he is idc his problems

He plays LeBlanc like trash and makes it work in LCS/korean challenger. You try hard on her and you're diamond. Makes you think. You'll not survive a day in korean challenger LOL!

Keep in mind I had female support that game (Not that its her fault just saying its not a 1vs1 performance fk it wasnt even a 2vs2 performance), I also play Yasuo across 3 roles (my toplane yasuo is kinda not the best)

Ah yes blame the support that actually did better than you. She ended the game 3/2/18 with 72% kill participation. The other support ended 1/5/17 so nami was the better support. You were just too heavy that game. It's ok though, everyone has bad games.

I am preseason master with High MMR so my stats cannot be impressive I can make a new Euw acc for example make a climb to atleast dia1 and brag about KDA WINRATE stats OPPPP holy shit

I just checked OP GG and it says that your MMR is normal. You go against diamond 2/1 players. No master/challenger players.

He is known duo abuser, wintrader, booster etc

He's not a duo abuser, they don't call him the best "solo" Q player for nothing. He plays solo now and he doesn't downgrade. he's still the best solo Q player in the world.

AND WHAT MAKES YOU THINK SO? Basic logic? sure then brand shouldnt ignite nami

You're twisting the logic to your favour. Because they're squishier of course. Diving is not their job because towers will destroy them.

Back in season 1- 3 Diving with an ADC/MAGE was way more possible / easier

Ahh back when the game was the most unbalanced shit ever. Good times.

No you dont

Yes, I'm not sure if you're too blind to know that.

More trash changes which wont excuse trash changes they have now cant wait

It didn't even go live and it's still work is progress and you're calling it trash. Makes sense. Unless you went to riot's HQ and tried it out all. All you're saying is nonsense.

Never have I seen someone with an ego bigger than yours on these boards. You think you're the hottest shit out there and you're the best at what you do. You're a diamond level player who thinks that they know what's better for the game just because you have been playing for a while and everything you say is automatically what's best for the game even though it's complete dogshit that you came up with in a few seconds because you're too obsessed with 1v1 scenarios and SkiLlZ. Your suggestions will not improve this game at all and any sane player, hell, even a low elo player can see that from a mile away. Sorry dude but arguing with you is like a arguing with an arrogant 13 year old who's replies are more stupid than the last one. I tried man really I did but you're a lost cause and you're giving me headache. This is my last reply. Have a nice day and good luck with your climbing to challenger. Hope you make it this season

Poske1 votes

I knew you were going to bring up my rank at some point. I know a lot about league. I play this game to have fun not to climb. I give zero fucks about ranked.

You're a diamond player and you don't know shit. Everything you said is downright stupid and it feels like I'm talking to a brick wall. Your skull is so thick I can't even break through with a drill. No, your opinion will matter less if it's just stupid and doesn't make sense at all. And your suggestions are exactly that and will drive the game downhill.

I know a retarded person even he made it past bronze..

He plays LeBlanc like trash and makes it work in LCS/korean challenger. You try hard on her and you're diamond. Makes you think. You'll not survive a day in korean challenger LOL!

  1. I dont try hard at all (I was already challenger this season so couldnt care less)
  2. My eyes wouldnt even blink against korean challengers. Look kids I play tournaments.. I played against famous people

Ah yes blame the support that actually did better than you. She ended the game 3/2/18 with 72% kill participation. The other support ended 1/5/17 so nami was the better support. You were just too heavy that game. It's ok though, everyone has bad games. I can make a new Euw acc for example make a climb to atleast dia1 and brag about KDA WINRATE stats OPPPP holy shit

I just checked OP GG and it says that your MMR is normal. You go against diamond 2/1 players. No master/challenger players.

My MMR wasnt normal at placements. Since I was preseason master. This means that I CANNOT HAVE 10.0 KDA, since I just can never be matched against bad players even in placements. I can play 0.10 placements as preseason master and end maximun platinum1

if I were to start my climb from bronze1. Then you would see the stats fking DOPA has Also the fking OP.GG doesnt show you real MMR, That shit is hidden and only known by Riot, reggardless I get like 18-19 and lose the same ammount

He's not a duo abuser, they don't call him the best "solo" Q player for nothing. He plays solo now and he doesn't downgrade. he's still the best solo Q player in the world.

Hello XYZ Wintrade me plox, Euw Solo Q> korean soloQ because Euw soloq doesnt force early game meta upon people with their internet caffee blshit

You're twisting the logic to your favour. Because they're squishier of course. Diving is not their job because towers will destroy them.

NO CHAMPION IN A GAME IS SUPPOSED TO TOWERDIVE. RIOT DIDNT CREATE THIS GAME AND THINK OH FOR MELEE CHAMPIONS TO WIN ANYTHING THEY LL HAVE TO TOWERDIVE, its just not how it works

Ahh back when the game was the most unbalanced shit ever. Good times.

Do you find current state balanced OMEGALUL,

Never have I seen someone with an ego bigger than yours on these boards. You think you're the hottest shit out there and you're the best at what you do. You're a diamond level player who thinks that they know what's better for the game just because you have been playing for a while and everything you say is automatically what's best for the game even though it's complete dogshit that you came up with in a few seconds because you're too obsessed with 1v1 scenarios and SkiLlZ. Your suggestions will not improve this game at all and any sane player, hell, even a low elo player can see that from a mile away. Sorry dude but arguing with you is like a arguing with an arrogant 13 year old who's replies are more stupid than the last one. I tried man really I did but you're a lost cause and you're giving me headache. This is my last reply. Have a nice day and good luck with your climbing to challenger. Hope you make it this season

When you have 30 000 matches, creativity, good reasoning, peek top 50, Peek top 10 Worldwide with multiple champions I even won some tournaments.. some people are cocky for a reason

Yes I am confident that I would do better then entire live design team (they set a bar incredibly low), All I would need is freedom and being allowed to force changes through (Which bassicly means being in charge)

I was already Challenger this season, perhaps I should try ending in challenger, but I just dont have the motivation to tryhard in a season I was already Challenger in...

Look I ll probably make a more respectable thread once I hear every change they have for preaseason

MOLTinaTOR1 votes

Riot change is about creating a meta where map doesnt open up for to long crippling melee champions while ranged champions can even get extra gold by hitting towers. Even at current state you cant really dive em... buffs to towers ll cripple the idea further

I don't think you understand how the new turrets will work. You don't get gold for simply hitting the towers. You get gold for destroying the extra HP bars. This will favour melee champs over ranged. I'll get to that later on.

NO thats just wrong thats what ll keep poisoning the game. Minions should punish bad trades (they dont atm)

Champs who can Easily drop tower aggro or have a way out if things go bad after a solo dive is one of the many things that is poisoning the game. Making that even easier for them will further poison the game.

Towers punishing bad trades is straight up bad gameplay and bad game design which leads to turtling and better players not being able to extend their superiority.

Are you actually reading what you're typing or just spewing nonsense? Towers punishing bad trades is definitely not bad game design nor is bad gameplay. You wanna know what's bad game play? You being under tower and being dove by a hyper mobile assassin with a next to no existing tower behind you that is just standing there shooting weak ass shots while you are being murdered by a champ who can Easily drop the turret aggro. That is bad gameplay. Useless towers is bad game design and bad gameplay. Just remove towers for fucks sake.

Ok then the next guy who is in charge should also leave. He simply didnt find a way how to make longer laning phase in non autistic ways and all he did is copy the previous designers by reworking runes/masteries for the 123713 time

That is definitely the right approach to making laning phase even longer and at the same time rewarding the player with gold for staying in lane by taking tower's extra HP bars. And as I said before, runes have only been reworked once.

Longer laning phase is good idea excecution is autistic, the extra shields on towers is extremly anti melee, since melee cant reach tower for gold Buffing tower damage is straight up bad idea, also autistic another anti melee change (Melees ussualy dive, rangeds ussualy turtle under tower)

Please don't use the term "autistic". It's not backing up your argument at all. Those changes will favour champs who can punish you into backing in lane and who can chunk towers if not dealt with. The champs who can destroy towers with ease are all, guess what? MELEE! If these champs get their hands on your turret they're going to chunk it big time. Like Yorick Nasus Jax Trundle Tryndamere

It's true that melee dive, but ranged don't turtle under tower at all. Most ranged champs are up your face, harassing you and poking you when you miss position. Like,Ahri Leblanc Swain Quinn Heimerdinger Gnar Kennen AurelionSol Teemo

There is already were little reason to pick melee top.. Jayce, Kennen gnar.

Those are also ranged champs. They don't turtle under tower at all. Those are very oppressive ranged champs.

Longer laning phase, buffed tower damage, tower shields are all anti melee ideas do you have any idea how that ll ADD up?

Like I said, it'll favour the champs who can destroy towers with ease. They're mostly melee.

They downvoted me because I come slightly edgy and they are sheep people who automaticly upvote Riot ideas. I cant possibly speak about this stuff in a calm way their ideas make me to mad-

No they downvoted you mostly because your suggestion are absurd and they lack common sense.

I do have an ego but I asure you it doesnt cloud my judgment in any way, If you knew me you would know I am one of the nicest people and extremly realistic / moral..

I believe it does. All of those suggestions you came up with will favour your baby girl LeBlanc. What I can assume is that you are afraid that those changes will make the already easy, brain dead LeBlanc tower dives somewhat hard and will require some skill.

I'm not sure if I want to meet someone who uses the term "autistic" so commonly like that. I'm sure you're a nice guy though.

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