Brand is so unfair to play against

Perniicious·7/15/2018, 12:53:01 PM·47 votes·12,235 views

Everyone of his abilties including his passive does damage

Has good itemisation

has cc

has aoe and single target nukes

has a high winrate and pickrate, but better nerf Rakan

63 Comments

saltran7/15/2018, 1:38:53 PM23 votes

And he's bald

FireDrizzle7/15/2018, 1:25:19 PM12 votes

I would rather play vs Brand than Rakan.

VG Crows7/15/2018, 2:17:16 PM8 votes

Exponentially more fair to play against than most meta BS to be honest

Danjeng7/15/2018, 7:42:00 PM7 votes

Midlane Brand is pretty fair though due to abilities being on cooldown if he wants to clear waves.

He's conceptually pretty fair champion, due to a lot of his damage being avoidable, and also delayed. His main one purpose is damage, so it's not like he's overloaded. It's just that he does a lot of damage, and this meta likes a lot of damage. Strong =/= unfair.

An example of an unfair champion is Tryndamere, who just splits all game and is never irrelevant because of this. It's just annoying as hell having to match this guy all game while he wacks at your turret. Even if he's weak, which he's not right now, he's still toxic to play against.

Disclaimer: I have been maining Brand as mid for the past 3 seasons and not support.

Sharp Chedarr7/15/2018, 2:19:24 PM5 votes

You right. Nerf Rakan lol. He's rediculous.

Nevrankroaton7/16/2018, 5:27:23 AM4 votes

I don't even see your point, you are comparing apple and oranges with Rakan...

We also already explained how listing a champion strengths don't make any sense. I can do that with like... karma.

"Low CD ultimate which allow her to have power play even at lvl 1"

"Super strong poke"

"Ability to snare while hasting her ally"

"Perma shield"

"Can easily link two ultimate in one TF"

"Have a mini shurelya in her kit"

Wait until I go about Velkoz or Morgana...

It never make sense, Brand is an AOE pure damage mage. He has no mobility, no high health, no sustain, his mana cost aren't gentle either. His only CC, a singlet target CC that can be creep block, need a condition first.

And comparing him to rakan... Does he have the insane engage Rakan can have (along with his shield passive)? Does he have this repositionning Rakan can have? Does he have sustain for his teammate? Rakan is super strong, like Brand, I don't even see how you can make sense.

bengtsosse7/16/2018, 9:44:00 AM3 votes

he is kinda annoying to lane against but he is a slow immobile mage that gets fucked up by like a zed or some other assassin so try that

Elewd7/16/2018, 1:38:54 AM2 votes

Just imagine if Liandries was actually a good item.

The Space Cowboy7/16/2018, 2:14:06 AM2 votes

IMO his problem is that his base damage is too high. He needs to have higher scaling and cut the base in half. It’s always a mistake to try and make a mage a viable support with support items. They will just rape the lower elos building ap.

Yordle Xayah7/15/2018, 10:36:46 PM2 votes

For the longest time I thought he was running around naked

[sg-jinx]

BeatzBoyFTW7/15/2018, 1:43:53 PM2 votes

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Everyone of his abilties including his passive does damage

Has good itemisation

has cc

has aoe and single target nukes

has a high winrate and pickrate, but better nerf Rakan

I have the same feeling too....., except if I'm up against a Yasuo bot. That jerk deserves years of suffering.

EasternBladeStar7/16/2018, 9:29:23 AM1 votes

You know what's the issue, really? It's not the damage, it's not the passive even.

It's his ultimate going off sooo fast. When he was released his ultimate had, like, the slowest start-up speed ever. If the target was ablaze, it'd speed up though. This means it required some setup.

Nowadays a dying Brand can just press R quickly to dish out massive damage before dying. Because the missile speed on his R is so much faster the enemy team has no time to spread out (and instead have to spread their cheeks).

Granted, THE PASSIVE % buff that was done earlier (this season...?) was UNNEEDED.

Craktite7/16/2018, 3:15:59 PM1 votes

You will see with new Akali, as 90% of new champ/rework champ : Unfair as hell.

RookPusher7/16/2018, 7:42:54 PM1 votes

What I don't understand is how you get away with saying things like this, but not mention how an assassin with half a brain just eliminates him. Esp. if he's bot lane. A roaming mid lane assassin should be getting fed on him.

SipsLiberalTears7/16/2018, 7:49:01 PM1 votes

league has too many horseshit champs that have no downside to building only retarded fucking items like health or damage but fuck over everyone and make people have to build to counter one fucking champ like that is broke as fuck....

Phhase7/17/2018, 12:51:43 AM1 votes

Yeah but you can dodge the Q and W. And he's worthless without them.

Skullgetti7/17/2018, 3:16:58 AM1 votes

i wouldn't say he's unfair, at all. Unfun, yes, but i'd rather play against a brand than a blitz any day

The Iceborn7/17/2018, 12:53:22 PM1 votes

The problem with Brand is that EVERYTHING BURNS!!!! His passive is waaaay overpowered its crazy... The thing is also Brand requires almost no skill, its a spam based champion! You only need to spam his abilities all at once and youre almost ALWAYS guaranteed a kill ...................

Leonerdo7/16/2018, 12:40:27 AM1 votes

He's probably a little over tuned right now. But holistically, he's a pretty simple champion with a lot of counter play, so in order for him to be at all balanced he's going to be a bit strong on the low-end (both at lower MMRs and for new Brand players). So his winrate is always going to be a bit high, especially at lower ranks. We probably shouldn't see him in Challenger streams though, which is why I agree he needs a small nerf.

Kamisha7/16/2018, 3:41:35 AM1 votes

He has always been a menace however in order to be a actual problem he has to have a good player behind him. If he doesn't he is just annoying because he doesn't have to be good to hit you he just has to keep on fishing because eventually he is going to hit something.

Rainbow Fusion7/16/2018, 5:43:09 AM1 votes

I prefer going vs Brand than going vs Yasuo no matter how much you stomp him like a bug he needs 2 items to do a tripple. And if Brand misses 2 skills he is pretty much dead! [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Leto GT7/16/2018, 8:55:10 AM1 votes

Brand is very squishy. If you can engage him, he can't really do anything. Especially true for brand support. But that's mostly depending on the support match up there. I always try to drop him as low as possible at lvl1 and 2 so that he knows that next trade, he's dead. Its fairly easy since his w is easily dodgeable while he's very squishy.

Summonah123697/16/2018, 9:22:00 AM1 votes

I remember some annoying ass Brand that managed to poke me to death in early game laning phase...