Oh look, another game lost because we have no front line

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A strong frontline doesnt have to be a tank. NUff said. Also you are exclusively mistaking offtanks for tanks. An Irelia or Lee with fulltank build arent tanks. They are offtanks with tank items. Huge difference.

How in the world is Leona not a pure tank?

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Since when are tanks unviable and who claims that ?

Look at the any high elo game or the LCS and you'll see either 2 tanks, or a double ap setup with AoE dmg/cc to compensate

the boards claim tanks are unviable because all they do is bitch about how Zed and adc's kill them so fast. When in reality they get caught by 4 members of the enemy team and get pissed because their 250 armor and 4000 health isn't enough to save them.

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Since when are tanks unviable and who claims that ?

Look at the any high elo game or the LCS and you'll see either 2 tanks, or a double ap setup with AoE dmg/cc to compensate

Do you not read the front page?

"tanks suck! LW/Bork makes them unviable! buff tanks pl0xxx!"

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No you didn't. Maybe you lost a game because your top lane mage sucked and/or your team sucks at teamfighting but you don't need a tank in this game right now.

A strong frontline is important if you plan on standing your ground or playing aggressive. Kite comps can be good but unless you have some huge speed boost (like a Sivir ult) then you won't really be securing any objectives or winning many fights without a turret behind you. A strong frontline will just chase you away while their backline takes the objective, and then they turn around and run once the objective is gone.

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No you didn't. Maybe you lost a game because your top lane mage sucked and/or your team sucks at teamfighting but you don't need a tank in this game right now.

(Note that's not to say tanks are bad right now. They're actually sort of keeping up with top lane mages which is ... something. Fighters on the other hand are total shit with hecarim being the only good one because he abuses tp so well.)

hecarim can fuck off, a 3/0 hecarim shouldn't be doing half our supports health with just E.

And no it wasn't Sona, everything does half her health with one ability.

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Nah it's not that tanks aren't viable, it's that tank itemization is inefficient, especially when you consider the fact that carries have LW / Void Staff to shred through all of the gold you put into your build.

Bruisers can use most of the same tanky items and have damage to go along with it, so full tanks aren't the best option unless we get some item buffs aimed at helping tanks actually TANK things.

I do feel for tanks I really do, but I'd rather not go back to league of unkillable tanky champions who 1v5 your entire team (especially jax though I don't know if he could pull it off with his current kit)

If anything ADCs need nerfs rather than tanks needing buffs. Currently mages can actually DO SOMETHING (not talking about the BS happening in top lane where certain mages are pushing melees out) mid-late game, whereas back then only the ADCs could even remotely hope to be able to deal with them.