Seriously I fucking hate caitlyn and yet I get salty as fuck when people ask for her to get gutted. Riot has barely tried balancing her, until she's deemed impossible to balance without major kit changes, gutting should not be used. This is also why I'm salty on riot's case with Aatrox, they gutted him without ever trying to balance him.
VoidStaresBack15 votesAatrox was gutted because pure drain tanks like him were a huge issue at the time of his release and he's so stat-checky that he can't be properly balanced. Either you have better stats than him and he loses, he has better stats than you and he wins, or you CC his ass and turn him into a pincushion.
Otherwise, in total agreement with what you said, gutting is indeed Riot's last resort for truly unbalanceable champions.
GULAG 4 U3 votesAgreed. Riot could have tried to do something such as shifting away his focus from sustain, but they just dropped him the the gutter.
VoidStaresBack9 votesBecause to move him away from his AA/draintank nature would require a rework, since that's the core of his identity upon release and even now. He was a poorly designed (From a gameplay perspective) champion released at a time when his exact archetype was oppressive, and they put him aside until they could rework him into something that wasn't a massive stat-checking monster.
GULAG 4 U3 votesThere's nothing to disagree with that.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesAatrox was gutted because pure drain tanks like him were a huge issue at the time of his release and he's so stat-checky that he can't be properly balanced. Either you have better stats than him and he loses, he has better stats than you and he wins, or you CC his ass and turn him into a pincushion.
Otherwise, in total agreement with what you said, gutting is indeed Riot's last resort for truly unbalanceable champions.
thats like every melee damage dealer tho. they all work like that.
Troy2426218 votesI'd hate to say this but I don't think the same can be said for 
. Either her ultimate needs to go or her base stats are going to be Aatrox tier pretty soon.
Shuyin1786 votesAll Riot needs to do is lower the trap duration timer, that's it. Her trap spam is the main reason she can do so good because she control zones so hard through them. Her extra range isn't even a problem if I'm being honest.
Possible Nerf : Yordle Snap Trap ACTIVE: Caitlyn sets a trap at the target location that arms after 1.1 seconds and lasts up to 60 seconds. After the maximum amount of traps is laid down, deploying another immediately destroys the oldest one. Trap duration reduced to 30 seconds if placed in range of an enemy tower. Trap duration increased to 90 seconds if placed in brush.
Or if you don't think that's a big enough nerf.
Yordle Snap Trap ACTIVE: Caitlyn sets a trap at the target location that arms after 1.1 seconds and lasts up to 45 seconds. After the maximum amount of traps is laid down, deploying another immediately destroys the oldest one. Trap duration reduced to 30 seconds if placed in range of an enemy tower. Trap duration increased to 60 seconds if placed in brush.
(90 seconds being the original duration)
SmileInABox2 votesI think it might be cool if they lowered the trap duration, but made it take less time for them to activate. They could adjust the traps to be more of a combat ability and less of a super heavy zoning tool.
(They gotta do something about traps under turret though, that shit can get ridiculous.)
MontethePython4 votes
Why rito, why did you ruin my Shenpai? I wouldn't wish the Shen worlds treatment on any champ.
[zombie-nunu-bummed]
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesi want all the champs i dont play gutted and all the champs i play buffed so i can win with out trying
GULAG 4 U2 votesI know a bit about your personality/attitude, so I assume your comment is satire.
Mira Arya Enthe1 votesNo 100% srs bsns
GULAG 4 U2 votes"hi guys i am a silver 3 adc main pls push assassin rework so me trashcan can outlifesteal burst xxdddd"
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteshmm you sure?
i "main" 
what do you think?
[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesoh and i adc 
Dehitay2 votesBalancing Caitlyn really isn't that hard. Limit her to 3 traps on the field and take the free headshot proc off her net and make it slow more instead.
hunterspec2 votesBalancing Caitlyn really isn't that hard. Limit her to 3 traps on the field and take the free headshot proc off her net and make it slow more instead.
3 traps yes. take headshot proc off no.
L rry1 votesSome champions should just be gutted though. Items need to be removed, ect. Sometimes its best to snip it at the bud. IMO, the Katarina and Rengar reworks are failures. They made them SO much easier and they delete people at the same speed, AAAAND now they're easy to pick up and scale into late game.
DKM Bismarck1 votesKatarina is much harder than old Katarina, her base stats are just a lot higher and her potential is much, much higher. I agree on Rengar he needs to be reverted and/or slated for a VGU, his entire kit fantasy this entire time has been toxic as far as the community and riot were concerned but they keep trying to make it work, yet all they have pushed out is a clunky, unbalanced kit that once its numbers are properly gutted, the champ will be useless. The only items that need changes rn imo are Runaan's and tank items needing an overhaul, items are actually in a decent place compared to before, you are forced to make choices game by game with most classes.
Papa Andrei1 votesI hear everywhere Katarina is basically the new Azir in difficulty
L rry1 votesI mean, I guess????? Her kit seems complicated, but she's just beyond strong considering she's really the only assassin with consistent nukes up every second.
L rry1 votesI disagree with that. The old Katarina, while simple(ish?) when fed, She was WAY less forgiving for losing lane, not snowballing, ect. This Katarina is much stronger and much more forgiving, and can do just as much if not more damage consistently than a full build Yasuo. You constantly nuke, where as before you had to rely on one kill. Now it's persistent nukes no matter what. Landing CC that isn't lissandra is very difficult, too. She can just constantly reset and reset and reset.
CppL1 votesIts very easy to balance her.Do not let her put traps under turets .that shit is stupid as fuck.Remove the Runaan's Hurricane and her passive synergy.It way to strong.bamm ,she"s balanced.
Papa Andrei1 votesHonestly the only time a chapion needs to be gutted, is when even after you gut them, they are still viable. See Old Yorick, he was perma nerfed but still was op as fuck in the right hands
L rry1 votesHis kit was made to split push. I remember those days, and god was it glorious. He was a nuisance and could 1v3 even easily after Triforce and Manamune. Don't forget the titanic hydra and Zz'Top.
Rip
Papa Andrei1 votesWent from Unranked first time going ranked to Silver 1 just spamming him in every role possible. But alas, now the Yorick is gone and an imposter is in his place.
Rockm Sockm1 votesDon't worry, riot will buff your craptastic turret spawning passive and pat you on the head.
That's a good boy