Please don't nerf LeBlanc's AP ratios....

Conturbatio·Mar 19, 2015·3 votes·732 views

Nerf her fcking base damage instead ffs.... Why the hell is an assassin able to take 50% of your HP at lvl 2 with Q + W only having a doran's ring?

9 Comments

straight4freeMar 19, 20151 votes

If she can't punish the enemy mid laner early game, assuming they are not playing a generally bad champion, she will provide less in a teamfight against a coordinated team.

Just playing devil's advocate here.

stuartk11Mar 19, 20153 votes

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If she can't punish the enemy mid laner early game, assuming they are not playing a generally bad champion, she will provide less in a teamfight against a coordinated team.

Just playing devil's advocate here.

If you want her to be a lane bully, then focus her on being that. Don't add the hyper mobile, super safe assassin playstyle that we see on some other champions onto a champion that is also supposed to bully the enemy laner.

straight4freeMar 19, 20151 votes

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If you want her to be a lane bully, then focus her on being that. Don't add the hyper mobile, super safe assassin playstyle that we see on some other champions onto a champion that is also supposed to bully the enemy laner.

She has always been a lane bully. If LeBlanc is fed and everybody on your team is doing well except for your mid-lane, you should be able to win easily because LeBlanc simply cannot carry teamfights if you play carefully against her.

That is, assuming your entire team is doing well bar your mid-lane.

stuartk11Mar 19, 20151 votes

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She has always been a lane bully. If LeBlanc is fed and everybody on your team is doing well except for your mid-lane, you should be able to win easily because LeBlanc simply cannot carry teamfights if you play carefully against her.

That is, assuming your entire team is doing well bar your mid-lane.

Lane bullies should not be safe from any act that the team of the opponent attempts to enact or focus on to mitigate it. LeBlanc can be a lane bully if need be (it seems fitting), but she cannot be a hyper-mobile assassin. She is a bully and a roamer, and her scaling isn't as laughable as some people make her out to be. She has a strong mid-game of assassinating targets more often than most assassins can (pretty low cooldowns), with great safety and is also strong early as a lane bully.

Also, those that say assassins are weak in team-fights like to ignore the primary purpose of assassins. It is difficult to pinpoint any weakness in this champion, yet you act as though she quite weak.

bad manner kidMar 19, 20151 votes

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Lane bullies should not be safe from any act that the team of the opponent attempts to enact or focus on to mitigate it. LeBlanc can be a lane bully if need be (it seems fitting), but she cannot be a hyper-mobile assassin. She is a bully and a roamer, and her scaling isn't as laughable as some people make her out to be. She has a strong mid-game of assassinating targets more often than most assassins can (pretty low cooldowns), with great safety and is also strong early as a lane bully.

Also, those that say assassins are weak in team-fights like to ignore the primary purpose of assassins. It is difficult to pinpoint any weakness in this champion, yet you act as though she quite weak.

Ever built a Banshee's Veil? Generally, LeBlanc is gated by her mana pool so champions like Cho'Gath, Galio, Malzahar, Swain all push her out of lane quickly and force her to roam because she can't even CS.

When you say "hyper mobility assassin" it comes off as a tad loaded because it implies that it takes no effort to roam and there is no drawback to leaving lane.

Complaining about her W/R escape means you mistimed your attempt to kill her. It's on a relatively low cool down, but it's no more annoying than any other champion that can fly away from a gank if they save their abilities.

The fact that some champions struggle to safely lane against her because they get zapped isn't a valid argument to nerf LeBlanc's damage.

stuartk11Mar 19, 20151 votes

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Ever built a Banshee's Veil? Generally, LeBlanc is gated by her mana pool so champions like Cho'Gath, Galio, Malzahar, Swain all push her out of lane quickly and force her to roam because she can't even CS.

When you say "hyper mobility assassin" it comes off as a tad loaded because it implies that it takes no effort to roam and there is no drawback to leaving lane.

Complaining about her W/R escape means you mistimed your attempt to kill her. It's on a relatively low cool down, but it's no more annoying than any other champion that can fly away from a gank if they save their abilities.

The fact that some champions struggle to safely lane against her because they get zapped isn't a valid argument to nerf LeBlanc's damage.

What you are suggesting is that a lane-bully needs to be punished by later team-fight oriented champions? Also, when you are a lane bully, able to punish players out of lane, then that is your advantage. You shouldn't be an assassin (able to roam more effectively than most anyways) that is able to punish other laners out aswell.

I would like to address what you mean when you say: "Complaining about her W/R escape means you mistimed your attempt to kill her."

What does this term even mean? You complain about loaded terms such as hyper-mobility after only acknowledging part of the term, then continue to use loaded phrases of your own. Don't be so hypocritical of your responses. Asking for damage dealers to build Banshee's Veil, while not exactly ideal, does not solve the problem of her early game punish potential.

You also came here calling yourself a "devil's advocate", but considering your defence and how you are so devoted, I feel that you are LeBlanc main using the "devil advocate" as an excuse to do so.

ConturbatioMar 19, 20151 votes

Punish him for what exactly? Picking mid lane?

straight4freeMar 19, 20151 votes