So about Ekko...how do I put it...

chipndip1··2 votes·339 views

Skirmishers, for the most part, work with high, relatively consistent damage at melee ranges, right? They're basically like melee-form adcs, more or less, and consist of champs like Yasuo, Jax, Fiora, and Master Yi. Attack speed and/or Damage junkies that are light on the armor and aim for late-game power. It's a pretty solid way to describe most skirmishers and their general "thing" thing in this game.

Now, skirmishers in this game have had issues with being too strong when going tank. Yi, Yasuo, and Fiora all did it. Whenever Riot wanted them to stop going tank, what did they do? First, they nerfed the items...but after that, they nerfed them by decreasing their early game strength, since these guys are meant to scale.

Tying this into Ekko: Since Ekko's a skirmisher that's having issues with preffing tank builds over squishier builds, why haven't we tied more of his identity to scalings yet like we've done/are doing to the others? Side note: They're doing this to tank Yasuo next...wtf when's Ekko's turn? Making his ult deal more with the scaling and less with the base is probably going to make him rush a RoA...THEN go tank. It needs a bigger shove. -_-

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Erockandroll1 votes

I think there's a bigger Meta issue. Ekko, Yasuo, Fizz, People keep asking for these champs to be gutted because they are annoyed that an alternative build does something effective. While not addressing, what's causing these Bruiser Builds to be popular, or even what Happened to their skirmisher/Assassin play style?

You imply that the system or environment is causing these tank builds to out perform their original play style. Further stat binding these champs isn't treating the problem, it's treating the symptom.

Also, I looked at his Wiki page, and found that his Ratios are pretty high. 150% on his ult, 150% on his w shield. There's only so far they can actually take that. Hopefully when the Assassin update roles out, it can actually bring these Assassin types back into the meta.

chipndip11 votes

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I think there's a bigger Meta issue. Ekko, Yasuo, Fizz, People keep asking for these champs to be gutted because they are annoyed that an alternative build does something effective. While not addressing, what's causing these Bruiser Builds to be popular, or even what Happened to their skirmisher/Assassin play style?

You imply that the system or environment is causing these tank builds to out perform their original play style. Further stat binding these champs isn't treating the problem, it's treating the symptom.

Also, I looked at his Wiki page, and found that his Ratios are pretty high. 150% on his ult, 150% on his w shield. There's only so far they can actually take that. Hopefully when the Assassin update roles out, it can actually bring these Assassin types back into the meta.

I said further tie his identity to scalings. That doesn't necessarily mean direct damage scalings. Yasuo's going to made so that his bonus armor pen from his ult applies to crits only, a scaling stat. Fio was nerfed so that she had to build damage to get more out of her true damage, and Yi was nerfed so that he'd have to rely more on damage and attack speed and less on just whacking people with true damage.

I think I worded my op a little wrong: They should nerf Ekko in a way where tapping the full strength of his kit relies more on risky, offensive item builds, because that's what a skirmisher is meant to build. The dude's chalk full of slows and he has a stun. Riot should have tied the potency of those tools to ap ratios long before now. It's not just the damage more than it's "that outlier thing that people are taking for granted to keep the champ useful while not building damage". This happened with Fio and Yi's true damage, it's happening with Yasuo's ult, and it's happening with Ekko's cc. Tie it to offensive stats, and the problem ceases.

Theorchero1 votes

Fuck ekko and his broken ass kit

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