THey choose not to nerf Vayne? she's got that bs true damage every 3 hits, how in the actual hell are we supposed to play a tank when the top tank killer isn't getting nerfed? Kindred needs stacks to be a tank killer and that's why I have no problems wit hthat champ, Vayne...just needs 1 ability.
Dominick Destine6 votesKindred has significantly more utility than Vayne.
Kindred's mobility is also higher than Vayne.
Kindred has AoE damage whereas Vayne does not.
Together all of these things means Kindred must not have the ability to take out tanks anywhere near as effectively as Vayne, at this juncture she is doing too well and thus, must be nerfed. It's not complicated.
Glîtchy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9OOpMYL7,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-04-29T20:23:41.612+0000)
Kindred has significantly more utility than Vayne.
Kindred's mobility is also higher than Vayne.
Kindred has AoE damage whereas Vayne does not.
Together all of these things means Kindred must not have the ability to take out tanks anywhere near as effectively as Vayne, at this juncture she is doing too well and thus, must be nerfed. It's not complicated.
So....why not nerf tanks if this is a tank meta? cause clearly they're doing too well. (since the tank items are all pretty much broken right now)
ViashinoWizard1 votesKindred aren't getting nerfed because they're doing too well against tanks specifically, it's because they have too many strengths in general.
Dominick Destine4 votesSo....why not nerf tanks
"Kindred is overpowered" "Let's nerf all tanks then" Logic 2016.
Apocalypsic1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9OOpMYL7,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2016-04-29T21:44:09.773+0000)
"Kindred is overpowered" "Let's nerf all tanks then" Logic 2016.
I'm pretty down for tanks being taken down a peg. The game is faaaarrrr too tank reliant right now and it usually tends to boil down to the tankier comp winning.
AlwaysByMySide4 votesTHey choose not to nerf Vayne? she's got that bs true damage every 3 hits, how in the actual hell are we supposed to play a tank when the top tank killer isn't getting nerfed? Kindred needs stacks to be a tank killer and that's why I have no problems wit hthat champ, Vayne...just needs 1 ability.
It's actually pretty simple.
Vayne isn't performing particularly well, and Kindred is significantly over-performing.
One champ is overpowered, the other isn't.
Does that make sense?
Twitch Chat3 votesVayne actually dies though
Omega T33mo2 votesI only play sion, Even if i build thornmail and all armor, vayne still kills me quickly
Glîtchy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Omega T33mo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9OOpMYL7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-29T20:21:01.639+0000)
I only play sion, Even if i build thornmail and all armor, vayne still kills me quickly
Cause her stupid thing that deals true damage every 3 hits will shred any tank, she just dgaf about tanks, weird how people say Kindred's just indefinitely better, I nearly never lose to Kindred cause all I do is take out the camps with the mark and if I'm marked I just kill Kindred or play passively until they choose another to mark, I mean take out the marks, and Kindred doesn't stack that well.
TheThundersRoar2 votesIt's not that tank-killers are bad, it's that Kindred is just too good at it, given the rest of the stuff she can do.
Glîtchy1 votesIt's not that tank-killers are bad, it's that Kindred is just too good at it, given the rest of the stuff she can do.
And yet, Vayne isn't that good? nearly every tank is melee and she can just push 'em back if she doesn't kill them in time.
TheThundersRoar2 votesShe was. Boy, you shoulda been here season 4.
And she'll be back. Sooner or later.
But not today, and so today is not the time to nerf her.
Borkahn2 votesVayne can be killed alot easier than a Kindred can. Most good kindred's are tanky within their build while Vayne's are mostly if not completely AD AS.
Borkahn1 votesKindred can also technically stack indefinitely.
MrLlamaWaffle2 votesKindred needs a nerf but with her gone, graves is pretty much just going to have a field day
Magnum Mack1 votesKindred can stack indefinitely so they scale into late game well, they have utility with a decent ult, they have mobility with a WQ and they have great sustain.
Vayne is easy to abuse early and mid game, is poor when behind, but much like Fiora a Vayne is just a ticking time bomb as long as they now not to be in the frontline all the time. BoRK, Runaan's and Deaths' Dance or Bloodthirster makes a late game Vayne a monster as long as they can position well.
Late game Kindreds can also shred tanks but can also run tanky. So where Vayne can be deleted the moment she is out of place and/or cc'd, Kindred can shred tanks, take more damage, play riskier for the same rewards AND has a "you can't kill me needle needle nee" ult in case of emergency for whoever stands in it all while having innate life steal on her own.
Sneakyy XD1 votesSigh, this again.
Damage based on percent of maximum health is LESS effective against thanks than against squishies, unless that damage is true damage, and especially when it's physical.