Why is Akali's Q free to cast?(rant)I am so tired of older champions

La Bello··1 votes·1,108 views

so I laned against an Akali and she zoned me by simply non stop qing me every time I came up to lane for CS.the energy cost on her Q is SO LOW there is absolutely no way Akali goes oom in lane unless she wants too.Zed goes oom if he misses his shadow shurikens,Shen goes oom if he misses taunt or if he cant wail on people with Twilight assualt(he also has ZERO ranged abilities)LeeSin goes oom if you dont weave in auto attacks.Kennen goes oom if he misses lightning rush or doesnt get off his stun. all these heros are gated by circumstances and be played around.

but not Akali theres no interaction and theres no real counterplay to this garbage in lane. even getting null magic and 5 hp pots does jack shit because you will still fall behind in CS and akali can build magic penitem 3135 to counteract this.The only real way to beat this is to take ridiculous amounts of HP5 and even then this only stops the harass part. you still cannot risk walking up to Akali and getting your mark procced.

I had no Idea how actually cancer this character was rather it be her INSANE sustain once gunblade or revolver is obtained or rather it be her absolutely idiotic sticking and all in power at level 6. I have never faced a more unfun lane that being a melee vs Akali.

I felt so powerless to do anything about her. It was as if I automatically lost lane and was being punished for picking a melee champ.Hell her damn Q isnt even a skill shot so theres no "okay I can outplay her and win trade If I do X". Your simply set to fail because you chose a champion from a different era.

since the assassin update is a LONG ways off can we please band-aid this shit in the meantime? Im so tired of watching these problematic relics from an older season steamroll me because of a flawed kit from a different era of balance philosophy.

Honestly rather it be for better Darius Heimerdinger MissFortune Ashe Caitlyn Graves Poppy Shen or for worse Mordekaiser Fiora Katarina Gangplank Ryze Cassiopeia

these Champion reworks cannot come soon enough. But until then

Tryndamere Akali Elise Nunu DrMundo Katarina Chogath Talon Anivia

Eat your freaking heart out.

EDIT: Akali is not OP. its simply that its bullshit to play against her in lane because she has free harass only gated by cooldown(4-6 seconds assuming no CDR is involved.) I have the same problem with Pantheon and Katarina s laning pattern.

Its that playing against some champs in league feel outright unsatisfying and unfair. Theyre blatant stat checking bullcrap.

dieing to a Yasuo leaves you with " oh I shouldve dodged the tornado" or "oh I shouldnt have gone near the creeps when he was glowing" , "Maybe next time I will bait out the windwall then kite back until it goes down".

dieng to Akali or Tryndamere is simply "not much I can do except build more resist" .

we are at a point where stuff like this should be well on its way out of this game or being replaced. Akali being able to shit damage and kill people in 3 seconds isnt that bad because there are many champs who can do the same. the problem is when resourceless champions or champions with archaic faulted kits crap all over you because they have to jump through considerably less hoops than you to achieve dominance.

Losing to targeted skills when your kit is chocked fuill of skillshots is unfun. Losing to a right click and forget champs isnt fun. Its like playing a game of Baseball except one person gets a Tennis racket .

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Madra1 votes

They are reworking Elise? I hope she actually feels like a spider champion this time. Cocoons are for caterpillars. It's like they didn't even try.

Brutalitops011 votes

Any champion with a ranged ability can out-harass her, though. Even if you can't deal damage at range, you can still just all in her and kill her before she gets 6. She is one of the weakest assassins in the entire game right now. Her and Katarina are so easily countered by any cc at all and can be killed easily without even needing to get into range. Yes, she has insane sticking power once she gets level 6, but a single kill on her before then (and literally anyone in the mid lane can kill her pre-6) will guaranteed make her completely useless. Kill her before she gets her spike and you'll deal more damage after. Also, keep an eye on her ult stacks. She'll only try to fight you if she has at least 2, so kill her as soon as she hits 6. Yes, she'll dash onto you, but then she won't have any real follow up. Stick close to your turret and don't give her any room to do anything. Remember, her ult takes her behind the target, so even if you're just a little bit out of range, she won't be able to dash onto you without taking at least 1 turret shot. She's one of those bronze stomp champions that you only really play in lower ELO because your opponents won't be able to play against you. She seems like she takes absolutely no skill at all against lower level players, but you try to bring her into Diamond or above and you're just gonna get stomped. Recap: ANY cc will destroy her Fight her pre-6 to mess up her entire game Kill her right when she gets 6 Stay near your turret when she has 6 Don't do anything too stupid She's only strong if you don't abuse just how weak she truly is. That's how assassins are. Abuse her weaknesses and she WILL fall behind and won't be able to catch up.

La Bello1 votes

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Any champion with a ranged ability can out-harass her, though. Even if you can't deal damage at range, you can still just all in her and kill her before she gets 6. She is one of the weakest assassins in the entire game right now. Her and Katarina are so easily countered by any cc at all and can be killed easily without even needing to get into range. Yes, she has insane sticking power once she gets level 6, but a single kill on her before then (and literally anyone in the mid lane can kill her pre-6) will guaranteed make her completely useless. Kill her before she gets her spike and you'll deal more damage after. Also, keep an eye on her ult stacks. She'll only try to fight you if she has at least 2, so kill her as soon as she hits 6. Yes, she'll dash onto you, but then she won't have any real follow up. Stick close to your turret and don't give her any room to do anything. Remember, her ult takes her behind the target, so even if you're just a little bit out of range, she won't be able to dash onto you without taking at least 1 turret shot. She's one of those bronze stomp champions that you only really play in lower ELO because your opponents won't be able to play against you. She seems like she takes absolutely no skill at all against lower level players, but you try to bring her into Diamond or above and you're just gonna get stomped. Recap: ANY cc will destroy her Fight her pre-6 to mess up her entire game Kill her right when she gets 6 Stay near your turret when she has 6 Don't do anything too stupid She's only strong if you don't abuse just how weak she truly is. That's how assassins are. Abuse her weaknesses and she WILL fall behind and won't be able to catch up.

"any CC will destroy her"

why do people still use this flawed argument? CC puts a stop to literally EVERYONE thats why its CC. its not her dueling power or its her goddamn laning power. People like Tryndamere Akali Katarina all have these bullshit laning phases that offers very little room for outplay or player skill.

Brutalitops011 votes

Pre-6 laning phase is literally the easiest point in the entire game to outplay any of these champions. You think they're strong because you don't know how to beat them. Play either long range mages or control mages, people like Anivia Lux or even assassins that have more ranged poke than them or a better fight than them like Ekko Zed Diana , Diana especially in the case of Katarina because build tanky enough to survive her initial burst then bounce her with your E to stop her ultimate (literally the easiest thing ever to do, I do it every time I play against a Kat and never lose lane to her) and you can easily win the early game. You say that their laning phases are so strong and they have no counterplay at all, when in reality, their laning phases are the time where they have the most counterplay and it's easiest to stop them. You know one champion in mid lane who is one of the easiest mid laners for anyone to play and can easily stop every single one of these champions? Annie . Literally no skillshots and a stun every fifth spell. Just shoot your q at minions to stack it up and farm, then pre-6 go for an easy Q W auto on the enemy (auto to proc Thunderlord's) for damage they CAN'T stop. After 6, simply drop the demon bear and they die instantly. Note how not a single one of these champions you listed has been seen in pro play or higher ELO (other than full tank Akali top, popular in Korea) in YEARS. Why? Because a skilled player can outplay them and literally make them useless before they even get a chance to be useful. They're called Bronze Stomp champions for a reason, they destroy Bronze, Silver, and Gold. Once you get above there, there's no reason at all to play them because you'll just be counter picked and destroyed.

DrNova1 votes

Zed goes oom?

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

Yeah, I always have 0 mana when I play Zed. Buying mana items doesn't seem to help either.

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

LadyRenly1 votes

Lmao Akalis shuriken harass isn't that great unless she follows up with an auto attack, otherwise it's just annoying tickles that can add up over time if you keep letting her Q you every time its up

Fight back or something

La Bello1 votes

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Lmao Akalis shuriken harass isn't that great unless she follows up with an auto attack, otherwise it's just annoying tickles that can add up over time if you keep letting her Q you every time its up

Fight back or something

If your melee and you fight back she procs the mark then applys another and procs that one too usually resulting in massive damage. Afterwards she will spellvamp her health back up.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

"Zed and Shen go oom"

La Bello1 votes

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"Zed and Shen go oom"

careless zed do go oom all his regen is based around hitting shadow skills.

In a teamfight Shen can go oom if he doesnt get twilight assualt hits off.

Shonjl1 votes

Akali is honestly one of the few real BS champs since you can beat her in lane and as soon as she is lvl6 and has lichbane, she can still get a penta.

I have laned against an Akali and I was like 7/0 and she was 0/5 and <50 CS by 10 minutes and as soon as she got Lichbane and her Ult. She not only could kill me when I was vastly ahead of her in levels and defense/AP. But she was able to get doubles and triples repeatedly and basically carried the game.

She is personally one of the champs I wish stayed nonexistant since at least Zed as annoying as he is can be countered. Can't really stop an Akali that can basically flash to you 3 times and can't really be pinned down due to her cloud. Sure the arguement can be said that you can Pink ward, but A. That is gold you waste every single time you have to lane against her, and B. That still doesn't stop that she can jump to you repeatedly.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

At max rank Akali's Q has an initial damage of 115.

At max rank. If you are somehow losing lane to an Akali that's spamming Q on you and nothing else then you should consider uninstalling. Unless you're afk there is literally no way for you to lose against Akali pre 6 and if you do manage to do that it means you either have some improving to do or the Akali is really good. If you're behind in farm that's even more embarrassing.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

lol Akali OP ? I'm almost certain this is a troll thread. An Akali lane is one of the easiest lanes in this game.

All Akali's power comes from being able to roam successfully. In fact, the only reasons an Akali should be in a lane are to 1) Push it so as not to lose a tower and 2) Farming XP to get to level 6. An Akali that stays in lane past level 6 is totally useless unless the dumbfuck that is playing against her doesn't freeze his lane near his tower so she can't get fed off him.

La Bello1 votes

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lol Akali OP ? I'm almost certain this is a troll thread. An Akali lane is one of the easiest lanes in this game.

All Akali's power comes from being able to roam successfully. In fact, the only reasons an Akali should be in a lane are to 1) Push it so as not to lose a tower and 2) Farming XP to get to level 6. An Akali that stays in lane past level 6 is totally useless unless the dumbfuck that is playing against her doesn't freeze his lane near his tower so she can't get fed off him.

sounds like your talking about Katarina more than anything.

Hexten1 votes

Akali's Q doesn't do much damage unless procced. Her all-in potential pre-6 is also very bad, so that's the only time you can make her get behind. If Akali gets to lvl 6 for free, then yes, you will have a bad time, especially if you are a squishy melee yourself with no CC because she counters those in lane hard.

Atleast Akali is unpopular currently and is kept weak for that reason.

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