[{quoted}](name=Shadow Gilgamesh,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9NRk3ztt,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-07-15T04:34:39.503+0000)
Like... I don't get why think it's a big issue.
Yes it happens all the time in the LCS because that's like a whole different world of "team based play" than everywhere else. They know if there's contested champs that both teams like to use, they know who's best on the team (or has the smallest champ pool) and pick for them first because they know that strategically it works. Everyone else it's way less likely to work that way, very few people even use it for avoiding counterpicks, it's usually only to get any super busted champs that didn't get banned (like 4.20 godwick) before the other team. Even if they DID do it to avoid counterpicking, that's not unique to any roll, every single position has high and low counterpick risk champs, even if you saved Zed for your first pick to see if it got countered, you'd be giving up something in another roll (yours if you're the one doing the trade). It has far less play outside the competitive scene than you seem to think.
Unless you don't like the mechanic because it opens the door to pressure from your team to give up your chance to pick a highly counter-able champ (Leona support, Riven top, etc.) or they get mad when you don't have the champ to trade them, in which case I remind you that we live in a world where people can't handle pick order, you'll have shitasses regardless.
as someone who has played dota,there is more to this than meets the eye.
lcs really isn't a whole different level of team based play(though it is higher),the problem is that trying to communicate a trade here is such a mess(hell,last time I tried to trade with someone that guy went afk(I'm guessing he just forgot he had to trade) and I had to dodge),that I mostly just don't feel like even trying,even if I definitely would want to do such a thing.
Say a person wants to make a very safe(and/or op) pick,but that person is below in the pick order,this scenario is quite likely and in dota would result in a "trade"(draft in dota just works differently),sure in a perfect world everyone is a hyper tryhard and master of all champions,but say your first pick is a riven main,and you feel like playing thresh,why not trade with him?
In dota's draft this would just result in a thresh pick eventually followed by a riven pick at some point,yet here the process is so messy people most likely won't even bother.
I'd say this just encourages lack of cooperation with your team(as it puts less emphasis on trying to work with your teammates),removes layers of depth from the game(the drafting process is very important in every moba,and that can be seen in competitive play),it goes unnoticed because people are so used to trades being messed up they've just given up on trying to coordinate on that level(subconsciously or otherwise.)
