Crowd Control needs to be recalculated

Bultz·Dec 8, 2018·3 votes·1,030 views

All I find while playing games is that whoever has the better cc wins every fight and every game. Crowd control needs to be recalculated. Especially locked on CC like renekton has. It used to be for the hypermobile champion meta. That meta died a long time ago. I don't want to be stunned 1 second out of 2 second fights. With damage levels at what they are now, 1 second in poopy cc or a Jax stun means you lose the game. Jax should lose his stun entirely, but that is a different issue. CC needs to be reduced or tenacity needs to actually play a part in the game. 1 tenacity item for 100+ champions with heavily loaded cc kits is absurd. Also no one will buy the potion and spend 500 on a potion over an item. The runes giving tenacity are insufficient. I want to last longer in fights without just being stunned and 1 hit. It's gross and infuriating.

14 Comments

SuicidePlankDec 8, 20183 votes

You can have 30% Tenacity out of Precision as well. Also, you know the word positioning?

MordepoolDec 8, 20181 votes

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You can have 30% Tenacity out of Precision as well. Also, you know the word positioning?

A useless stat they Could make it 50% and it still wont change the outcome after you have been Cc'd

BultzDec 8, 20181 votes

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A useless stat they Could make it 50% and it still wont change the outcome after you have been Cc'd

I've had it to 60% before in various modes, it didn't change anything. It's horrible.

BultzDec 8, 20181 votes

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You can have 30% Tenacity out of Precision as well. Also, you know the word positioning?

At the price off attack speed. Anyone who needs the tenacity needs the attack speed much more.

RalanrDec 8, 20181 votes

Doesn’t Yasuo fully max his Q CD at like, idk, two AS and crit items? And can’t you suppliment some of the AS lost from not buying berserkers through Runes like legend Alacrity and the 9% AS from shards?

So, PD, Runes, 9% from shard, maybe grab another AS item like Bork if you wanna avoid crit?

It feels like there are options if you wanna sacrifice your boots for tenacity.

BultzDec 8, 20181 votes

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Doesn’t Yasuo fully max his Q CD at like, idk, two AS and crit items? And can’t you suppliment some of the AS lost from not buying berserkers through Runes like legend Alacrity and the 9% AS from shards?

So, PD, Runes, 9% from shard, maybe grab another AS item like Bork if you wanna avoid crit?

It feels like there are options if you wanna sacrifice your boots for tenacity.

You could, but then what would be the point? i'd gain 5% more tenacity at best and have 25 less mr. The Mr as of now is worth so much more than the 30% tenacity. 5% may seem like a lot, but honestly having had tenacity in the 50%+ range before, I can attest that it doesn't do much. I've literally gone from play multiple games per night this season, to maybe 1 a week when there aren't rotating game modes. It feel bad to play at this point.

RalanrDec 8, 20181 votes

Wait, where are you losing MR? Treads, the boots that give tenacity, also give MR. And the shards that give MR aren’t in the same row as AS shards.

BultzDec 10, 20181 votes

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Wait, where are you losing MR? Treads, the boots that give tenacity, also give MR. And the shards that give MR aren’t in the same row as AS shards.

I meant that if I take the Tenacity runes there would be no point in buying treads as they don't stack, as far as I am aware, so I would lose out on mr by using the runes and not the boots and which Yasuo needs the mr. If the runes stacked with the boots, of course I would take them over the AS, but as it is now tenacity is a lack luster thing to use. I'm usually dead before it even kicks in against cc. Riot is taking no time or effort to lower damage which ends up with being dead after only being stunned once.

RalanrDec 10, 20181 votes

Then take the boots. As Yasuo you have more than enough mobility to circumvent CC that isn’t point and click, and you have tools to even counter point and click CC.

Getting caught is entirely on you, and a squishy character like Yasuo is supposed to get blown up anyway when he’s caught.

BultzDec 10, 20181 votes

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Then take the boots. As Yasuo you have more than enough mobility to circumvent CC that isn’t point and click, and you have tools to even counter point and click CC.

Getting caught is entirely on you, and a squishy character like Yasuo is supposed to get blown up anyway when he’s caught.

I completely disagree. As someone who needs to land a skill shot tornado to activate his R, I can tell you it's nothing difficult to land a skill shot. Have you ever been rooted, used merc scimitar active, then before you can moved you were chained down by a jax stun. Chain cc is a menace in this game. Jut because you are squishy doesn't mean you should be blown up. If we go by the rule all tanks who are near impossible to kill should do no damage. Juggernauts shouldn't even be a class if we go by that. Getting killed near instantly even when I used Steraks or Maw should not happen, but damage levels are busted that even with the shielding I am instantly dead. I see you trying to cop out, but no, I 100% disagree that CC is an okay mechanic with the damage levels being what they are now.

RalanrDec 10, 20182 votes

I’m not saying CC is all ok, I’m saying you as Yasuo have more than enough tools to avoid it. Hence why you getting blown up is fair when you consider that’s basically the main way to kill Yasuo.

SuicidePlankDec 8, 20181 votes

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Doesn’t Yasuo fully max his Q CD at like, idk, two AS and crit items? And can’t you suppliment some of the AS lost from not buying berserkers through Runes like legend Alacrity and the 9% AS from shards?

So, PD, Runes, 9% from shard, maybe grab another AS item like Bork if you wanna avoid crit?

It feels like there are options if you wanna sacrifice your boots for tenacity.

Exactly. ADCs and stuff like them will buy Attackspeed anyway.

MordepoolDec 8, 20181 votes

CC duration isnt the Problem its just tje fact that Time to Kill has gone Lower and Lower every patch.

BultzDec 8, 20181 votes