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People are complaining about DQ, but WHY?

Emerald Fang·Jun 5, 2016·6 votes·723 views

I really want to know. Exactly WHY are you complaining? Like seriously? I see posts about "DQ is cancer" but the authors never explain. So please, post your WHY in the comments. I will add it here, and maybe with a little comment.

"It matches you with premades when you are solo." ONE IN A THOUSAND GAMES. This is ACUTAL evidence that Riot has. In high MMR it is about 1 in 25, but seriously. 4% of games you get matched with a premade? It is incredibly rare for that 4% to impact a major game in Ranked (promos, demotion game, etc.).

"It increases queue time." So you have to wait 2-3 extra minutes. Boo hoo. Yes, there are rare cases with 15-20 minute queue times and that should be fixed. But for everyone who is complaining b/c they have to wait 6 minutes instead of 4, stop.

"Playing with premade in your team is the same if not more terrible." How? I don't even know what you are talking about. Every premade is relatively the same unless one has skype and the other doesn't.

19 Comments

PhDs NutsJun 5, 20165 votes

"I didn't read any of your threads"

-OP

The DeckownerJun 5, 20164 votes

It matches you with premades when you are solo.

it's not just playing against premade that is terrible, playing with premade in your team is the same if not more terrible.

Emerald FangJun 5, 20161 votes

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Playing with premade in your team is the same if not more terrible.

What do you mean?

The DeckownerJun 5, 20164 votes

imagine this you are solo, you are paired with a 4 man premade, 5 of you are inn a team. you are, let's say top lane. the premade in your team are using voice communications like curse skype discord etc. they are talng with each other and they know each other very well so they are having a lot of fun playing video games with buddies while chating and joking aroundq, sounds nice right? now when you the solo top laner are getting camp by the enemy premade. since rito said over 95% of the time both team would have 4 man premades, your enemy also has a 4 man premade.

they camp the fuxk out of you, you can't do anything because enemy constantly 3 man 4 man diving you. you ping for assistance but your team are having too much fun talking with each other they don't even.notice you are getting camped and dived over amd over again.

at one point you have died enough that your opponent had grew a big enough lead and he left lane (your tower is probabaly down at this point too) to gank other lanes. you pinged mia and warned your team in chat but they are too focused at chating and didn't see your ping, until your lane opponent destroyed them. and they realized how many times you died and they start screaming at your face, calling you a troll, flaming you, telling you to kys(this actually happened to me).

at the end no matter winning or losing, you were ignored, isolated, and verbal abused for the entire game.

now think about the fact that the enemy team also has a solo player who experienced probably similar things like you did.

this is why playing with premade in ranked is terrible.

The Last BalladJun 5, 20161 votes

That seems like it is the people's fault, not the premade system itself. With my sisters we spread out to different lanes, with one of us as the jungler. Since I am usually the support I keep tabs on how we are doing. The sister that is mid or top keeps tabs on that one. Then whichever sister is jungling keeps tabs on the remaining lane. And we coordinate which lane needs the most help(which is usually the one without one of us in it, strangely enough)

Complete control over the game, and able to capitalize on the opponent's mistakes quickly. That should be how the premades should be working. Then again, My sisters and I are more teamwork focused, and only yell at someone if they buy 3 thornmails or multiple warmogs and the like, so it would not be the best comparison. (Honestly, that 3 thornmail janna was the worst. IT WAS HER FIRST 3 ITEMS, THEN WE DIED! We even had a tanky top, support, and mid! Why she chose to go as tank Janna when we had a Braum, Cho, and Xin on our team I do not know. And do not get me started on her performance...)

The DeckownerJun 5, 20161 votes

well good for you and your friends. i'm just talking about my own experience.

Emerald FangJun 5, 20161 votes

Hence the one in a thousand games. DQ isn't just matching solos with premades.

Nameless VoiceJun 5, 20162 votes

The "one in a thousand games" statistic is specifically solo players being matches against teams of 5. It's explicitly stated in Riot's article where you took that statistic from.

The DeckownerJun 5, 20161 votes

that number is when a team of solo fave a team of 5, you need to read the title of the graphs. in fact every game where there is a premade there will be solos.

ElysMustacheJun 5, 20161 votes

Not if there is a premade three and a premade two.

The DeckownerJun 5, 20161 votes

the possibility of a premade of 2 match with premade of 3 in one team is very small.

Emerald FangJun 5, 20162 votes

No, that's the 1st step of DQ. If there is a 3 premade it will look for a 2 premade. Only in autofill-like circumstances will it match solos with premades. Trust me, there are thousands of solo players in the queue, all the time.

Unless you give me evidence that this isn't the case, this is true.

The DeckownerJun 5, 20162 votes

face palm

you have no idea how the system works, who the fuck told you all these false facts?

SlythionJun 5, 20163 votes

Please read my conversation with an extremely open-minded individual here regarding SQ vs DQ:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/InxziUlA-something-that-has-not-been-said-enough?comment=000000000000

Also:

"It matches you with premades when you are solo." ONE IN A THOUSAND GAMES. This is ACUTAL evidence that Riot has.

Every single 4 man premade need a solo player...you think only 1/1000 games have 4-man premades? How about 3-man premades? You think the other two are queued together 99.9% of the time? Where is the evidence also, other than their word?

"It increases queue time." So you have to wait 2-3 extra minutes. Boo hoo.

Try hours for higher elo players. And I can tell you right now as a bronze elo (climbing extremely fast though) it makes me wait a solid 10-15 minutes extra sometimes

TekihcaNJun 5, 20163 votes

I hate it. I don't play league much now. Cannot escape Elo-hell. I don't want people telling me- 'oh you don't know how to play.' ..bs..its impossible to climb unless you play 4-5 games everyday and even in that you get afkers, gold-plat-master tier smurfers and to top that..now premades.. It fkin sucks for low elo SoloQ. People make fun of your play, toxicity is crazy and dynamic queue is so bad that if you make 1 person on the premade feel bad, you have 2-3 people cursing you all game. It is too toxic. I have seen them 2/4 games in the weekend ive played. ...That is NOT..4% of the games which are live. RIOT is a big fat liar.

. I cannot say it enough. I have created a new account just to not be in Bronze. It is all about the first 10 ranked games. If you are lucky to have a better comp, teams that understand when to leave lanes, where to ward and what not to do you might end up in gold if your lucky. That's more than enough elo for part-timers like me. Idc about Platinum or Master or whatever. This game is cool now but wont earn you money. its entertainment. It becomes more than that if you want to go further. I do not want it.

pulledchickenJun 5, 20161 votes

"WHY" doesn't matter! to be upset about ppl. complaining about something that was here for years and ppl started with is ridiculous

YhkoJun 5, 20161 votes

For a while right when the Dynamic Que video came out I felt like making a thread about the Republicans and Democrats of League of Legends. (staying the same SoloQ Republican, Changing DQ Democrat) But maybe I'm just talking out my ass.

eastcoastblazeJun 5, 20161 votes

I lost my final game in promos to gold 3 because someone got boosted to my mmr by playing exclusively in a 5 man party, and then decided they wanted to play solo and got adc. They were 0/8 before 8 minutes. Enemy twitch was 15/0 by 10.

ElysMustacheJun 5, 20161 votes

Whiners gonna whine.

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