Someone please attempt to explain why this is okay

Theorchero·Sep 11, 2016·7 votes·714 views

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26 Comments

Elite4RunnerSep 11, 20168 votes

It would be so helpful if the poster would actually give any sort of hint to what their actual complaint is other than an image.

Just because the problem is obvious to you, doesn't mean it is obvious to everyone.

I believe the assumption is that Zac's range on this ability is excessive. I also believe that many people would agree that it is. However it does require a channel to achieve that range so it does have some balance, perhaps not perfect balance, but balanced no less.

There are other champions who can cover this range, and even further, in a short period of time when ganking so this further helps to validate his balance.

Ultimately, it comes down to understanding that your enemy has a Zac on their team, and that you need to maintain vision in order to avoid these ganks. That is simply how the game is played.

Gary B EnkelisSep 11, 20163 votes

Like warding / playing different because they have Fiddlesticks or Blitzcrank or something . Yeah. Each champ brings something to the game.

TheorcheroSep 11, 20161 votes

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It would be so helpful if the poster would actually give any sort of hint to what their actual complaint is other than an image.

Just because the problem is obvious to you, doesn't mean it is obvious to everyone.

I believe the assumption is that Zac's range on this ability is excessive. I also believe that many people would agree that it is. However it does require a channel to achieve that range so it does have some balance, perhaps not perfect balance, but balanced no less.

There are other champions who can cover this range, and even further, in a short period of time when ganking so this further helps to validate his balance.

Ultimately, it comes down to understanding that your enemy has a Zac on their team, and that you need to maintain vision in order to avoid these ganks. That is simply how the game is played.

If you need help to understand the thread, something is wrong with you.

Elite4RunnerSep 11, 20164 votes

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If you need help to understand the thread, something is wrong with you.

It speaks!

No, not really. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. There are several things I could find that is wrong with the picture that is probably not what you are intending to illustrate.

For example,

Why do you have no items? Why do you have smite when there doesn't appear to be any other players or bots in the game?

adidasSep 11, 20166 votes

It's not okay... Been telling everyone on the boards for 7 months now that Zac needs nerfs but people just point and laugh because im the minority apparently.

MisterHealYoGirlSep 11, 20162 votes

If you're having trouble with Zac, hitting him with any form of displacement while he's in his jump (Thresh's Flay, most famously, but anything will work) will stop him where he stands and he won't apply any CC. Get good enough at that and he won't be able to do anything against you.

EedatSep 11, 20161 votes

That is extremely difficult to actually pull off. Especially if he's jumping from the fog of war

zlumpySep 11, 20161 votes

Veigar stun works great. Veigar is a huge pain in the ass for Zac because he denies a huge area of approach the entire game. Alistar also works great since you can easily last second Q and stop him mid air. Syndra stun also works well. Really any large area aoe snare/stun works almost too well against his E.

Also remember if he doesn't land that E he is waaaaaay less useful in a gank/teamfight.

RequiemsfireSep 11, 20162 votes

The center of the circle is where you land, the circle is the splash radius.

TheLastShadow45Sep 11, 20162 votes

What is the point of this post? What do you want explained? What is the problem here?

Meep ManSep 11, 20162 votes

I know right, why doesn't that Zac have ANY ITEMS!?

Yondaimee HokageSep 11, 20161 votes

The circle is still in the spell's range.

Gary B EnkelisSep 11, 20161 votes

Yeah it cuts off at the center or something.

I hate my ADCSep 11, 20161 votes

I'm fairly sure he is complaining about the range of the jump itself, not the circle.

I hate my ADCSep 11, 20161 votes

He's only banned 34.43% of the plat+ ranked games. Riot has shown that even with 60% ban rate, changing a champion's kit that is annoying enough to be banned for more than 1/3 of the games isn't a healthy change to do for the game.

That's why it's okay to have a jump that covers the entire lane.

P.S. I'm not sure why so many people downvoted the OP, the only reason Zac is banned so much is his slingshot giving him too much ganking power.

SchàdenfreudeSep 11, 20161 votes

only banned 34.43% of the plat+ ranked games.

only 34.43%*

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I hate my ADCSep 11, 20161 votes

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only*

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Mkay?

Fondling GemsSep 11, 20161 votes

Where are you seeing this ban statistic?

The highest I have seen it listed at is still under 15%

I hate my ADCSep 11, 20161 votes

http://na.op.gg/champion/statistics

Fondling GemsSep 11, 20161 votes

Huh, interesting. Aaaaaaaaaaaand bookmarked.

SlythionSep 11, 20161 votes

champion.gg for is champion statistics (plat+) better in my opinion

XinCrinSep 11, 20161 votes

My problem is not that the range is really long but how he can jump in and if he messes up, he can ult and bounce away since it knocks back people and gives him movespeed. also he gets really tanky and he heals. Oh, and lets not forget the passive that can stay alive if someone teleports on the blobs.

HigeSep 11, 20161 votes

the only part that's not ok is that the indicator for Zac's landing spot is a measly shadow that you can barely see and that does NOT show the size of the AoE.

Also, the AoE itself is way too big for a skillshot with that speed and that range, add on top of it that you can't see it and you have quite a messy and OP skill.

Elite4RunnerSep 11, 20161 votes

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