Cassiopeia and Urgot are GREAT CHAMPIONS

CollectiveFury·Dec 12, 2014·6 votes·1,028 views

I should mention this is against bots. They are terrible against human players.

Everybody and their brother has a dodge, jump or some super-long ranged poke that makes your "on paper godly" power seem like your only job is to be the team feed.

Mantheon hard counters either one of these champions with his hands tied behind his back. Galio's poke VS Cassiopeia? Might as well just stop playing during loading screen. Cassiopeia's vaunted "sustained damage" VS a Galio ult is GG, especially in team fights.

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MadManApocalypseDec 13, 20142 votes

Urgot Q, if you have trouble hitting an automatically hitting sniping homing missile you have some major issues, Also for urgot the best build is as follows

item 3025 item 3006 item 3508 item 3022 item 3172 item 3087

This build works well cause the gauntlet stacks with his W, the zephyr + SS bonus speed fixes his mobility issues and the crit chance can be pretty nice with the sniping Q spam, urgot is naturally tanky so mallet is an AMAZING item for him, Q spam and burst with him mixed with CDR costs large amounts of mana counter it with a reaver and he's good to go. Bezerker greaves because the AS is good for quick targeting in team fights to lower enemy teams damage and be more beneficial to a team. It all comes down to build and if you build recommended you will not have a good time.

The reason to not use tear is because it kills early game way to much and can put him very far behind and make him only able to catch up around 30 mins. The gauntlet gives plenty of mana during the earlier phases and this build really gets rid of most weaknesses while optimizing for his maxium output at the same time.

CollectiveFuryDec 13, 20141 votes

{quoted} Urgot Q, if you have trouble hitting an automatically hitting sniping homing missile you have some major issues, Also for urgot the best build is as follows

This build works well cause the gauntlet stacks with his W, the zephyr + SS bonus speed fixes his mobility issues and the crit chance can be pretty nice with the sniping Q spam, urgot is naturally tanky so mallet is an AMAZING item for him, Q spam and burst with him mixed with CDR costs large amounts of mana counter it with a reaver and he's good to go. Bezerker greaves because the AS is good for quick targeting in team fights to lower enemy teams damage and be more beneficial to a team. It all comes down to build and if you build recommended you will not have a good time.

The reason to not use tear is because it kills early game way to much and can put him very far behind and make him only able to catch up around 30 mins. The gauntlet gives plenty of mana during the earlier phases and this build really gets rid of most weaknesses while optimizing for his maxium output at the same time.

Interesting build, I'll try that one out. Statik Shivv seems like a weird buy on him, same with Greaves, but I'll take a leap of faith.

What's going on with Urgot's Q lately it seems that even though I am hovering my mouse on an E'd target and Q is off cooldown, it seems Q won't cast for about 1-2 seconds. It's very frustrating because you're trying to ambush and deal as much damage as possible but the lag isn't letting you.

RasCaelestisDec 13, 20142 votes

I've seen that too. I've noticed it happen ever since they made his Q return mana when it kills a unit. Not sure what patch that was, but it has been going on for a while. It also seems like even if the cursor is right over an E'd target, Q sometimes acts like a normal line-based skillshot and not the tracking missile that it should be. It's incredibly annoying.

CenturosDec 13, 20143 votes

Pretty sure Q doesn't crit. All of those items require him to actually get in range to autoattack, so unfortunately they don't really help the sniping Q spam.

MadManApocalypseDec 13, 20141 votes

Dude urgot is amazing, it might be how you're building him, the suggested build really sucks in human matches.

CollectiveFuryDec 13, 20141 votes

The problem with Urgot is there aren't many on-spell-hit items that help him. There's Muramana and Black Cleaver. If they made special exceptions for Urgot with certain items or gave him Viktor-like items where they affect only him, effects like BotRK and Bloodthirster that could play off of his spells would really help him. That mana-recouping ADC item would really help him, too, if his Q could proc it.

I don't know if it's just me, but I find hitting Cass's E's and Urgot's Q's a lot trickier than they were 1 week ago. I think there are some pretty heavy server lags.

CenturosDec 13, 20143 votes

If Urgot's Q did on-hits, it would be amazing. I would buy Sheen every time.

MadManApocalypseDec 13, 20141 votes

the staik shivv is nice for earlier game if you're top against a melle as well cause you don't need Q poke so you can save mana and poke via SS