List Champions whose burst/ulti is countered by Zhonya's...

Be Kind Rewind·1/8/2015, 7:08:15 AM·47 votes·6,339 views

...who don't get to use that as an excuse to be strong at everything, ungankable, and extremely mobile.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130319091852/leagueoflegends/images/b/b5/Zhonya's_Hourglass_item.png

Because it seems to me like Zhonya's is a defense against a lot of champions kits, but only Zed gets to use that as his excuse for being overbearing in every way.

Lux Fiora Caitlyn Talon Karthus Katarina Orianna Velkoz Jayce Vladimir

I have to say, my favorite example here is Lux. Lux

She can perfectly land every skillshot in her combo and the entire thing is reduced to near-nothing if you activate Zhonya's. But you never hear Lux mains saying, "Zhonya's exists, therefore I deserve extreme mobility, ungankability, mana-less poke and excellent splitpushing on top of my burst."

Ahem. Zed

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Blazing Tenshi1/8/2015, 7:16:52 AM27 votes

I agree, turn all burst mages into Zeds.

OJ1911/8/2015, 8:34:15 AM16 votes

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...who don't get to use that as an excuse to be strong at everything, ungankable, and extremely mobile.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130319091852/leagueoflegends/images/b/b5/Zhonya's_Hourglass_item.png

Because it seems to me like Zhonya's is a defense against a lot of champions kits, but only Zed gets to use that as his excuse for being overbearing in every way.

Lux Fiora Caitlyn Karthus Katarina Orianna Velkoz Jayce Vladimir

I have to say, my favorite example here is Lux. Lux

She can perfectly land every skillshot in her combo and the entire thing is reduced to near-nothing if you activate Zhonya's. But you never hear Lux mains saying, "Zhonya's exist, therefore I deserve extreme mobility, ungankability, mana-less poke and excellent splitpushing on top of my burst."

Ahem. Zed

you missed "a few"

Sona Syndra Vi Zilean Zyra Ziggs Amumu Ashe Azir Brand Braum Draven Ezreal Fizz Gragas Graves Hecarim Jinx Kalista Leblanc Lucian Malphite MissFortune Nautilus Nunu Darius requires teamwork because ult cd refunds Garen requires teamwork because ult cd refunds (I think) LeeSin unsure if it refunds the cooldown or not Riven you'll probably still die after zhonya'ing her ult though Talon soon as he E's you press zhonyas #rekt Urgot gives your team time to save you after he ulted you Veigar only if you avoid the stun Ahri zhonyas the EQ if you can't dodge in time, bye bye half her burst Cassiopeia gotta have fast reaction time Diana doesn't get her QR ult refresh, unless they changed it, drops a good amount of her burst and chaseability Leona requires teamwork because you can only dodge EQ OR R Karma only avoids RQ, though that is her biggest burst anyway Kennen forces bolts to target your tanks instead of you Heimerdinger not the turret, but you can dodge rockets and grenade

Morgana can't remember if her ult ignores zhonyas or not - I know it doesn't care about say, troll pole

Kowe The Ewok1/8/2015, 8:02:58 AM4 votes

The ironie is: Zed's ultimate lasts 3 seconds, while Zhonya's lasts 2.5 seconds That means he can actually still use his active items to amplify his item damage - simply by button mashing next to the target. (Also his normal abilities, but that requires more timing)

Meanwhile other abilities are gettign truely countered by it... And have a much longer CD than Zed's ultimate.

meatjunjun1/8/2015, 9:45:48 AM4 votes

This is the dumbest "bash Zed" thread I've seen in a while.

  1. About 90% of the champs you and the others are listing are RANGED CHAMPIONS
  2. Ranged champs SHOULD NOT get great mobility. If they did, that'd make melee champions even more unplayable. There's a reason why the meta is "protect the ADC".
  3. Fiora Doesn't get countered by Zhonyas. Just a mild inconvenience for her
Devourer1/8/2015, 10:29:57 AM4 votes

Zed is perfectly balanced as is, you can beat him easily in lane and if he doesn't get ahead he won't be assassinating your carries half as often. You can not only zhonyas his ult but QSS it which means all of his potential targets can escape, most of the champions on your list have aoe ults which means even if one person goes into zhonyas you will still kill someone else. And lastly is that most of the targets you will be assassinating are the adc's generally and will more often than not buy a QSS, gap close away (an exception here being Kog), and then you will have to ult back out of the fight or get fucked basically making you useless for the entire fight. Zed generally doesn't have enough damage with just his auto's and abilities to kill an adc fast enough to make a difference without his ult, they will generally QSS and kite him.

The Soulforged1/9/2015, 12:45:17 AM3 votes

Ahri Anivia Annie Ashe Brand Braum Caitlyn Cassiopeia Draven Evelynn Ezreal Fiddlesticks Fiora Fizz Galio Gangplank Gnar Gragas Graves Hecarim Heimerdinger JarvanIV Karma Karthus Katarina Kayle Kennen Khazix KogMaw Leblanc Leona Lucian Lux Malphite Malzahar MissFortune Mordekaiser Morgana Nami Nautilus Nocturne Nunu OriannaRumble Sejuani Sion Sona Syndra Talon Taric Tristana Trundle Tryndamere Varus Veigar Velkoz Vi Viktor Vladimir Xerath Zac Zed Ziggs Zyra