Honestly, IF Stormraider's Surge gets removed Morde's VGU should better be lurking the corner

Malicious Metal·Jun 28, 2017·40 votes·1,711 views

As of now Runes reforged seems to be getting rid of a lot of Keystones and the recent poll on which Keystone to keep Thunderlords got chosen, which makes me pretty upset, not gonna lie.

Mordekaiser currently performs really well since Stomraider's allows him to stick to enemies and get his 3 Q's off, if he loses that reliability he'll be a lot worse than he is now and would rely 100% on his allies to even get his damage off.

I'm just hoping that either: A) Mordekaiser is gonna be the next VGU after Urgot and Eve B) Stormraider's gonna stay C) There's gonna be a suitable replacement for it

28 Comments

KoKobotoJun 28, 20173 votes

Honestly having to go storm raider's every single time feels bad. I hope his rework makes it so he doesn't NEED to get storm raiders to fight.

######I have tried builds that don't use storm raider's but storm raider's is the most optimal.

Malicious MetalJun 28, 201713 votes

His rework needs to make him rely less on crutches like Rylais and Stormraiders.

Ra1ugaJun 29, 20171 votes

IMO morde's kit just lacks effective counterplay- Either you outrun him and live, or he outruns you and you die. you HAVE to be able to outrun Morde in order to survive, and in turn, Morde HAS to be able to run at people to do damage.

EedatJun 29, 20171 votes

Either you outrun him and live, or he outruns you and you die.

Protip: pick MonkeyKing and smash Mordekaiser [slayer-jinx-wink]

Sun Wu RyuumokuJun 29, 20171 votes

??? Mordekaiser totaly f*ck MonkeyKing

Skins ProjectJun 29, 20171 votes

Try Jayce

It's living hell.....

Ik I had to deal with it...

He has poke, disengage and a faster burst/dps pattern then mord...

Violet FieldsJun 29, 20171 votes

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IMO morde's kit just lacks effective counterplay- Either you outrun him and live, or he outruns you and you die. you HAVE to be able to outrun Morde in order to survive, and in turn, Morde HAS to be able to run at people to do damage.

item 3123

Yasuo, Graves, and Fiora builds it every time and it's not even funny.

Burnt Iron KingJun 28, 20171 votes

you're missing a word in your title buddy.

MicbranJun 28, 20171 votes

At least that new essence thief one kinda fills the hole that strangth of the ages used to be in. I hope I don't have to start taking thunderlords on morde...

JunkοJun 28, 20171 votes

Even then Stormraider's Surge doesn't do too much to stop Morde from being kited and CC'd to death by other champions before he can reach them. After laning phase (which is sort of decent vs melees I guess) Mord is kind of useless right now. He became a dumb gimmick like most other champion updates so far. The fact that spellvamp isn't really a thing anymore doesn't help.

I miss old Morde where you could enslave an enemy champion instantly if you manged to get in range and could sustain longer fights with shields and spellvamp.

KnightOfEloHellJun 29, 20171 votes

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Even then Stormraider's Surge doesn't do too much to stop Morde from being kited and CC'd to death by other champions before he can reach them. After laning phase (which is sort of decent vs melees I guess) Mord is kind of useless right now. He became a dumb gimmick like most other champion updates so far. The fact that spellvamp isn't really a thing anymore doesn't help.

I miss old Morde where you could enslave an enemy champion instantly if you manged to get in range and could sustain longer fights with shields and spellvamp.

Get stunned once by Morgana and die

Use ghost, have full boots, and proc Stormraiders and still get killed before you reach the carry

DJMason88Jun 29, 20171 votes

Aatrox was just added to the champion update schedule after Eve.

MordepoolJun 29, 20171 votes

Source. Nvm found it

KarakotJun 29, 20173 votes

He's only getting a game play update not a full scale rework. He will still have the same model and voice over just all new abilitys

Legacy HydralphaJun 29, 20172 votes

Idk if it's just me but I want them to give Aatrox a bit more voice lines for his GU, maybe some interactions or voice lines for new spells. And hopefully fix the Tryndamere interaction glitch.

Fear the KaynJun 29, 20171 votes

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Aatrox was just added to the champion update schedule after Eve.

Aatrox needs changes much more than Eve tbh. Eve is pretty balanced atm, but Aatrox just isn't very good. Sure he's got a alright winrate, but that's because the only people who play him are one tricks.

DJMason88Jun 29, 20172 votes

Eve needs one more, imo. At least with Aatrox he has a kit that focuses on using his life for power and draintanking (even if hes not doing it well), but holy hell Eve's is all over the place. Ap scalings here, ad scalings there, magic damage, physical damage, a random attack speed buff, i think shes supposed to be an assassin but she has an ult which gives her a shield and rewards her with hitting multiple champions, she looks super outdated and her lore is shit.

Fear the KaynJun 29, 20171 votes

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Eve needs one more, imo. At least with Aatrox he has a kit that focuses on using his life for power and draintanking (even if hes not doing it well), but holy hell Eve's is all over the place. Ap scalings here, ad scalings there, magic damage, physical damage, a random attack speed buff, i think shes supposed to be an assassin but she has an ult which gives her a shield and rewards her with hitting multiple champions, she looks super outdated and her lore is shit.

Eve is EXTREMELY strong when fed and has a very strong (borderline OP) passive. I think for now, they should make the bonus damage from Aatrox's W true damage until his rework. That would make him stronger and more viable and help balance out all the GW items.

AwesomeGuyDjJun 29, 20171 votes

Well, undying grasp has one, so im hoping that they'll have new rune replacements for all the keystones.

VectrosJun 29, 20171 votes

Where is this poll at?

CowseedJun 29, 20171 votes

The duck is a Morde?

PlsTouchMeGentlyJun 29, 20171 votes

I feel you. I play with Stormraiders on Ryze and Cass and I hate going anything but that keystone. The removal of movement speed quints is also going to hurt me.

EvanThomasJun 29, 20171 votes

Riot recently (-ish) did a poll on what keystones we would like to see kept in the game as the new runes. Stormraider's Surge was basically tied for first with Thunderlord's Decree. Considering they even asked us, I get the feeling Stormraider's will stay. They may not have revealed it yet because they might be reworking it slightly, possibly to be more reliable.

ZedexJun 29, 20171 votes

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202294884-Champion-Update-Schedule

Still no Morde on that list, and it even got updated.

Unfortunately for Morde mains you're gonna be waiting even longer...(Probably forever)

BakedLotionJun 29, 20171 votes

Like 4 people play Morde.

If I was Riot, I wouldn't waste my time on him.

You're delusional for thinking they care. Just accept the truth that he won't get a rework. It's not gonna happen

JMoormannJun 29, 20171 votes

You're right, but about the poll: I can't imagine them using a poll with roughly 8000 votes from a very unrepresentative group as a guideline for their game design. The Boards (even with thousands from reddit joining in on the poll) are just a very insignificant part of a community of more than 1% of the entire world population.

EuthenaasiaJun 29, 20171 votes

They're considering removing the keystones they have balanced champions around at one point now? What a joke

Agent CorgiJun 29, 20171 votes

Same thing could be said about Nunu . Most Nunu's I see take Stoneborne Pact (If they're jungling that is). Remove that, Nunu might fall off the face of Runeterra.