Can we give blitz a little more scaling with his W nerfs?

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Overdrive (W) has received several changes: Duration reduced to 5 seconds from 8 seconds. Movement Speed % increased to 70/75/80/85/90% from 16/20/24/28/32%. Movement Speed bonus now decays over the duration of the buff. New Effect: When Overdrive ends, Blitzcrank's movement speed is slowed by 30% for 1.5 seconds.

so can we add some more AS to it or give him some better AP scalings to compensate? or even a cd buff somewhere.

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IcyPepper5 votes

Isn't his grab, powerfist, and silence burst ult bursty enough as it is? Blitz grabs one squishy early game and it's almost a guaranteed kill. And considering what his win and pick rate has been for awhile, I don't think it's more damage he needs.

UPfreely1 votes

im not talking about a buff to support blitz, that is not what i want. this change kinda cripples AD blitz tho and hurts ap blitz and most of all, jungle blitz. full utility support blitz is fine( a bit strong in solo q apparently.

IcyPepper3 votes

Problem is if we buff other Blitz roles, support Blitz (who's really strong right now) may become overbearing. Rito had the same problem when they were balancing Annie.

I could see more AD scaling, I suppose. Maybe fit in a passive in his power fist to boost his damage against monsters or something?

I got nothing against buffing him, but we have to be careful. Balance... isn't easy, to be honest. People always find a way to abuse something.

TehNACHO1 votes

Not necessarily true. Attack Speed is one of the most defining differences between Support Blitz (Emphasis on Utility and Burst, little DPS time) to his other roles (a lot more emphasis on his DPS values), and AS is the first thing the OP asks for. Decent enough fix to help Blitz' dueling potential in his other lanes without making him an overbearing support.

IcyPepper1 votes

so can we add some more AS to it or give him some better AP scalings

I'm only worried about the second part. I don't see anything wrong with more AS, considering support Blitz's main weakness is getting poked down when his grab is on cooldown. If Blitz is just autoattacking your support/adc, you're probably doing it wrong.

Though I certainly would like to see Blitz in other roles, if just for a change of pace. He looks like a fun jungler is his clearing was strong (ult's passive would probably help with that, maybe it could do boosted damage against monsters? Like 150% damage?)

TehNACHO1 votes

Oh, Jungle Blitz is fun when you know when to gank, or even better, know how to force ganks.

His clear is fine to a certain point. A strong leash at red and he'll be able to get to his smite upgrade. After that however, his sustain really hurts him, so it's more about looking for good opportunities through his teammates. Once aboutish Level 6/second buff rotation, he should be able to take care of himself in the jungle if you bought any sustain.

IcyPepper1 votes

item 3713 probably works well on him then, eh? I'd switch to chilling after a little bit, then build cinderhulk.

UPfreely1 votes

did u read? i dont want base number buffs i want scaling buffs like say 40% more AS for losing a huge chunk of buff time, maybe they could increase the scaling on powerfist to bonus AD, maybe they could make the MS scale with ap. all support blitzcranks dont build ap or ad atm which is fine but i'd like him to be able to do other roles a little better, even if he has horrible sustain.

KaisadiIIa2 votes

Movement Speed % increased to 70/75/80/85/90% from 16/20/24/28/32%.

This is a huuuge compensation.

btw, this change is pointless overall.

UPfreely1 votes

except it decays rather fast and he slows himself for 1.5s at the end by 30%

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

It's meant to be nerf, there is no compensations. He's played as a support for almost every single game, and it's difficult to try and keep a champion good in multiple roles.

Wullf1 votes

You did not say why.

To compensate for what?

This change was made to balance him. It gives him clear weakness and adds a kind of risk to his play style.

Compensation is not given automatically after a nerf, or what someone comprehends as nerf.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

At max level I think his W can become permanent. Or at least with CDR.

Blitzcrank needs a nerf if anything really, coming from a person who often plays Blitzcrank support, Blitz does too much damage and has too much crowd control. Blitz top or mid is so hilariously broken just because of Blitz's cc and damage and he also has his life saving passive that can become an enormous shield if built right.

Lissama1 votes

He needs only HP scales like other tank-supports.

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