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Match Making Too Slow at Detecting Smurfs

Aerilus·1/26/2016, 10:41:12 PM·2 votes·629 views

I don't believe this will ever change, unless the match making system is completely redesigned.

Low level games should be '10 new players fighting 5v5'.

Instead, it's almost always 6-8 beginners fighting, while 2-4 smurfs carry hard while the beginners have no idea what happened and mostly do not benefit from playing with these better players, 'smurfs'. ^ And since the beginners won this match as well, they will continue to play matches with smurfs for MANY games ^ And since the smurfs are winning/losing the same games highly dependent on who has the better smurfs, not the better team, they will continue to be in the same games for a long time SInce ELO is based on win/losses, this error will always exist. It will even out after playing many many many matches, but for individual cases, individual matches, it is not balanced at all.

I'm not saying ELO should be based strictly on KDA, damage dealt, damage received, and more, but it is a hell of a lot better factor than just going based on who won/lost and who they won/lost against.

Win/Loss in a 5v5 game is based on many more factors than just 1 individual player's skill, so win loss should not be a primary factor in determining ELO, but it is.

On the other hand, ARAM seems balanced. The players in my ARAM games are about equal. But play any game on summoner's rift on unranked against, I'll get Golds, Platinum, Diamonds, on the other team. Make a new account and the same thing happens, matched against Golds, Platinum, and Diamonds.

Obviously not all matches are this imbalanced, but a significant amount are that I see at least 1 person 2-3 ranks higher than me in EVERY match. On average I see at least 3. And since a lot of you try to reply to this factor with 'rank doesn't matter', or 'lolnexus' is not reliable, yet I reply to this with an easy observation that the players who are 'high ranked' in these low level games, almost always completely destroy the other players in the game, getting scores like 15/1/10 (+100 more cs than everyone else)

Because of this I will never play summoner's rift again.

I don't enjoy the games where I'm with complete beginners and platinum players (in the same match). It is such a joke I don't see how that is acceptable.

I don't want free wins or unwinnable loss, it's just not fun.

This post is not about ELO hell or noob teammates for those who can't read, any such posts will be ignored.

24 Comments

Alpha Water Bear1/26/2016, 10:49:10 PM2 votes

Then play ranked for fun and play with people of your own ability level.

NsEternal1/26/2016, 11:58:31 PM1 votes

you will never be able to play in any elo without smurfs its just a fact. Even in plat III where i was last season i faced D-1 smurfs and even challenger players. The game cant detect if a person just so happens to smurf until its already happened and even then whats the deal their just playing the game. Its just a matter of luck in solo que when you get your teammates. If youre anything like me you love it when a person is a challenge because that's what makes the game fun. Playing 3v3 ranked i face challengers all the time, and occasionally maybe 40-50% we win the games too. you just have to play the game and if people are smurfing just try to learn from what they do and try to incorporate it into your play style and fully understand why they're doing what they're doing. Honestly i enjoy it, now can they be A-holes sure but thats just how people are/can be when they hold a certain amount of power over you. so try to overcome the odds rather than complain about it being unfair.

Alpha Water Bear1/27/2016, 12:17:07 AM1 votes

I'm not going to invest any more of my time on you. If you or anyone else that reads this thread wants to understand why your reasoning is wrong they are welcome to see my other posts.