So when is Katarina going to get a healthy play pattern?

Annie Bot Sucks··5 votes·1,442 views

Because the current meta of:

Spam pots and resourceless daggers and whittle your opponent down with little to no counterplay early Push lane out and roam bot for double kill Snowball and win game

Is fucking obnoxious to play against.

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Genuwhine3 votes

or you can learn how to play against it like going mid with Kayle shove her in all game so she cant roam or lose tower or just 1v1 her because you can out poke/sustain. Oh she tries to all in presses r? you press r and kill her. I love facing katarinas its a free win.

Annie Bot Sucks1 votes

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or you can learn how to play against it like going mid with Kayle shove her in all game so she cant roam or lose tower or just 1v1 her because you can out poke/sustain. Oh she tries to all in presses r? you press r and kill her. I love facing katarinas its a free win.

"Or you can learn to PLAY against it"

"Like going mid with..."

So you're telling me there's counterplay, and then tell me to counterpick instead. There's a difference between the two, but you're too dense to notice it. I smell a Katarina main.

redniwediS3 votes

Let's word that differently.

There's counter play when you don't counterpick yourself.

Genuwhine2 votes

its like playing against a tf but the tf doesnt have a stun or a global tp it just has higher burst potential.

Annie Bot Sucks1 votes

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its like playing against a tf but the tf doesnt have a stun or a global tp it just has higher burst potential.

Can't believe there are people like you who defend that cancerous champion. I bet you think Vladimir and Kalista are the epitome of good champion design. I wouldn't be surprised.

Genuwhine3 votes

with all the terrible assuming you do im surprised you are still alive. Hell you probably assume that nothing is real and that you are the center of the universe or something dumb like that l0l. Something isn't "cancerous" just because you are too stupid to know how to deal with it. You even lost to a guy who has a negative win rate on kat..... LOL

Annie Bot Sucks1 votes

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with all the terrible assuming you do im surprised you are still alive. Hell you probably assume that nothing is real and that you are the center of the universe or something dumb like that l0l. Something isn't "cancerous" just because you are too stupid to know how to deal with it. You even lost to a guy who has a negative win rate on kat..... LOL

Maybe that's because all it takes is a negative winrate katarina to gank bot lane and snowball?

Genuwhine3 votes

or because she got lucky to face really bad players so she finally got a win :D

redniwediS1 votes

The situation you are mentioning has nothing to do with the Katarina and her ability to snowball, and everything to do with your bot lane improperly positioning and providing vision to the area around their lane when there is a roam heavy champion mid.

Genuwhine3 votes

i gave you an example of how to counter it and how to play against it. Im actually a diamond kayle main, i never play katarina lmao just sick of morons bitching about such an easy champion to win against.

TheVishual3 votes

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Because the current meta of:

Spam pots and resourceless daggers and whittle your opponent down with little to no counterplay early Push lane out and roam bot for double kill Snowball and win game

Is fucking obnoxious to play against.

Take cho'gath mid spam laugh beat kat with your knockup, tankiness, and 2.25 sec silence win the game

You're welcome

Annie Bot Sucks1 votes

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Take cho'gath mid spam laugh beat kat with your knockup, tankiness, and 2.25 sec silence win the game

You're welcome

Again, counterpick, not counterplay. When a champion's sole counterplay is to shut them down early or risk losing (Nasus, Kat, etc), they're probably not well designed.

TheVishual2 votes

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Again, counterpick, not counterplay. When a champion's sole counterplay is to shut them down early or risk losing (Nasus, Kat, etc), they're probably not well designed.

Cho'gath is a tier 1 champ in solo queue atm, it's not like its a counterpick; you can play him vs most lanes and win and then stomp late game

He just happens to completely dumpster kat in addition to being great in general

Abyssphere3 votes

There are a lot of things to complain about regarding Kat but I don't get your complaints. Kat shouldn't be able to poke anyone out of lane since they nerfed her health regeneration and she has horrendously weak waveclear, particularly early on. Where are you while she's pushing out and if you're in lane - who are you playing that actually has inferior waveclear to her?

Even with boots + 4 pots start she gets poked out before the majority of mages, and she gets pushed on too. She can often snowball despite that but there's no way she should be getting the advantage on you in lane.

MohawkBird2 votes

I doubt they will ever do anything about the toxicity that is Katarina. Whoever thought of an assassin with full resets like that blows my mind. Only thing you can do against Katarina is just ban her. No matter how much you shut her down she's gonna snowball regardless.

KirbyCake2 votes

You know, the one time in ranked I play vs you, your teammates all said to report you since you were toxic and useless.

Annie Bot Sucks1 votes

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You know, the one time in ranked I play vs you, your teammates all said to report you since you were toxic and useless.

Oh, you mean the time I had a Singed jungle on my team? And a 1/9 Mao'Kai top? Alright.

Blastermine2 votes

Because the current meta of:

Every champion in the game

Is fucking obnoxious to play against.

Seriously, the only characters that are fair are the ones that have been nerfed into the ground.

Knight SoIaire 2 votes

what katarina needs is not a healthy play pattern but interactive play pattern

when katarina exists in a game the rules change ... its basicaly whether you stop katarina or die trying even if you manage to stop her you dont feel succesfull at all ... you feel lucky or still fked becuase she will respawn

katarina is a champion who dwells on perfect synergy ... you dont have that you wont stop katarina unless luck and then look at what cant solo q compete

basicaly speaking katarina is bad design her only counterplay is playing like lcs pros ... solo q cant do that

Dr Poro2 votes

IMO her W should be buffed and her Q nerfed. It's too easy to just poke down with Qs if your opponent is low ranged.

Make her Q scale 5 or 10 lower and her W scale 5 or 10 dmg higher per level invested in the skill.

Or... swap some of the first hit damage to the mark damage of her Q

Currently:

Dagger Magic damage: 60 / 85 / 110 / 135 / 160 (+ 45% AP)

Mark Magic damage: 15 / 30 / 45 / 60 / 75 (+ 15% AP)

Total Damage: 75 / 115 / 155 / 195 / 235 (+ 60% AP)

Change to

Dagger Magic damage: 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 / 120 (+ 30% AP)

Mark Magic damage: 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 / 120 (+ 30% AP)

Total Damage: 140 / 120 / 160 / 200 / 240 (+ 60% AP)

Kat Head2 votes

Someone with the name Annie is complaining about Katarina.

/giggle

Kat has a 48% winrate, clearly nothing can stop her.

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