Riot just trolled itself with yuumi rebalance....

Shuumi··29 votes·13,967 views

Remember how everyone thought Yuumi was gona just be a troll champion that just always sat on a shoulder not really doing much to contribute to the fight? Well.... It looks like with these rebalances, Riot wants exactly that.

Now, granted you still have to hop off to get your shield and thats true. But once its on its on till you need it again unlike with the mana sustain and please, dont get me wrong here; poke Yuumi needed a nerf. But all this is gona do is stagnate gameplay for Yuumi, give opponents less chances to stop what shes doing (Cuz i dont need to hop off even half as often anymore....) and all-in-all YUUMI IS LOSING HER IDENTITY AS A CHAMPION.

If you want a healer there are others that do it better as you can just heal without trying to drop it on the 40% mark. The avg sustain is > than yuumis but yuumi has more counter burst heal. The problem is... Ignite. Ignite wants to trigger at the 40% margin too and this flat out means when you REALLY need a heal, yuumi cannot deliver due to item 3165 summoner 14 item 3123 This means that there are just other champions to grab besides her. Yuumi Q is now the last skill to max, first to get to get full use from her Mana Regen 1% missing mana rune and proc item 3303 -Its useless unless you are going full AP or the game has made it to level 16.

My gripe here is thus- She doesnt do well enough what riot wants her to and she already had only 3 active skills in the first place. We now have 3 active skills and one of them is almost useless till 30Min and another thats also pretty bad (W) untill 30min. So we get our choice of going E or pressing R to listen to "You cannot learn this skill yet!" Now, all im going to do is sit on a shoulder all game unless theres an all-in and then ill proc the shield and hop back on once that whole fight. Otherwise, I wont jump unless I need to heal or support a gank. You were talking about lack of counterplay; heres the uncounterable heal-stick of suck. xD

34 Comments

vyoda8 votes

The grievous wounds sources you mentioned hurts all Healers, not just Yuumi

You talk as if Yuumi is the only healing champ affected by summoner 14

PurpleHentai2 votes

Laughs in Raka

The Goat can heal through ignite on any day at any time thanks to how low her CD is compared to Yuumi's. Give that bitch a warmogs and watch her and her adc never die no matter how much grievous wounds you try to apply lmao

chipndip14 votes

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Laughs in Raka

The Goat can heal through ignite on any day at any time thanks to how low her CD is compared to Yuumi's. Give that bitch a warmogs and watch her and her adc never die no matter how much grievous wounds you try to apply lmao

Warmog Soraka hasn't been a thing in ages.

Eedat1 votes

Still very much a thing

....coughon ARAMcough

chipndip11 votes

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Still very much a thing

....coughon ARAMcough

I can't express enough how much no one gives a single unit of shit about ARAM when it comes to competitive balancing for this game.

Nielarken1 votes

And all of them save for nami has had the same issue for years but riot still forgets healing reduction is a thing when balancing these champions but not when making them.

Critmaster Garen7 votes

yuumi is literally an item with a couple of actives that are controlled by another player. its not even a real champion.

shes even an item in TFT.

The Ecdysiast6 votes

Well, everyone thought that of her before they buffed her. Which isn't applicable now.

Crimson Zeppelin6 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8pEu3Eaj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T07:27:07.907+0000)

Well, everyone thought that of her before they buffed her. Which isn't applicable now.

We literally knew this was coming because there is only three cases of which Yuumi can exist.

  1. Her poke and mana sustain to be super strong because her passive is strong
  2. She becomes healbot soraka 2.0
  3. She can't do anything. (release)
The Ecdysiast10 votes

[{quoted}](name=Crimson Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8pEu3Eaj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T07:51:01.279+0000)

We literally knew this was coming because there is only three cases of which Yuumi can exist.

  1. Her poke and mana sustain to be super strong because her passive is strong
  2. She becomes healbot soraka 2.0
  3. She can't do anything. (release)

Yes. They've made a balance nightmare. Thanks to that W, which should not be in this kind of game at all, she can't be anything but over or under powered.

Crimson Zeppelin5 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8pEu3Eaj,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T07:53:14.222+0000)

Yes. They've made a balance nightmare. Thanks to that W, which should not be in this kind of game at all, she can't be anything but over or under powered.

I know there were tons of problematic releases these near seasons but I think Yuumi would be the most hyperbole balance of all. 0 or 100.

Josh Sand2 votes

I dont get why Riot can make so many champions that most ppl in that role would wanna get good with, and then support gets this shit:

Pyke Yuumi

Support mains deserve priority on the next rework or champion release, cuz these last two were complete flops.

Nielarken1 votes

I honestly thought yummi was an April fools joke with how much riot hates sona and soraka given these two balancing history.

Zero Shingetsu2 votes

The only problem with your analysis is that you overestimate the cunning of the community.

No one except Shingetsu buys item 3123 under any circumstance.

LemurMonster1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8pEu3Eaj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-18T12:35:45.256+0000)

The only problem with your analysis is that you overestimate the cunning of the community.

No one except Shingetsu buys item 3123 under any circumstance.

Hahahaah! Why are you getting down voted? Because people know many are to cheap to get a 800 gold item that really mess over all form of healing.... It's not only funny but really sad....

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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Hahahaah! Why are you getting down voted? Because people know many are to cheap to get a 800 gold item that really mess over all form of healing.... It's not only funny but really sad....

Well, I'm glad at least to have found two other people (you and one more) who understand the importance of Executioner's Calling!

Nielarken2 votes

Only if they are on the enemy team. I play vs a Soraka no one buys it. I play soraka and every one including the towers buy it hell even scuttle buys it.

chipndip12 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8pEu3Eaj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-18T12:35:45.256+0000)

The only problem with your analysis is that you overestimate the cunning of the community.

No one except Shingetsu buys item 3123 under any circumstance.

People downvoted this man, but it's literally a struggle in and of itself to get people to spare 800 gold for something that cuts all healing by 40% for the rest of the game. It's almost harder than getting permission for a turn at a dude's wife.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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People downvoted this man, but it's literally a struggle in and of itself to get people to spare 800 gold for something that cuts all healing by 40% for the rest of the game. It's almost harder than getting permission for a turn at a dude's wife.

This guy knows what's up.

Cevrad2 votes

Remember how the champion was broken in the right hands before they hard buffed everything about her? She DESERVES EVERY NERF coming her way and then some. Her W is fundamentally busted just like Tahm Kench's W. She will get nerf after nerf after nerf until she is unplayable.

Tuition Fee2 votes

Her range also makes it kinda pointless to hop off, IMO. The majority of the time, someone just autos you twice when you go in for the shield, which makes her passive almost pointless early game. Mana was the only reason I did it previously, but now it's just moot.

Yuumi or Dodge2 votes

She's another Ryze and Azir case. Sub 50% winrate in soloq, but a nightmare in pro-play. I hate that my favorite champion would be gutted like this, but it's understandable. They made a balance nightmare. Possibly one of the most team-reliant champions in the game. Of course she'll be powerful in coordinated environments. Now, I've played as, against, and with Yuumi many times - and yes, her borderline point and click Q can feel very bad to play against. I mean, it isn't even a skillshot. Her poke needed to be dealt with. But completely destroying her passive wasn't necessary, in my opinion. It was already the case before, but now jumping off to proc passive is almost entirely useless - most ADCs and even supports can destroy it in a single attack. There's absolutely no reason to not AFK on your adc all game now. It's just awful. They are turning Yuumi into the thing she is memed to be - an AFK champion.

They took the wrong direction by taking away the mana on her passive and nerfing the mana cost on her Q. One or the other is fine. Now Yuumi will have almost no mana in lane, and will most likely be forced to buy three faerie charms on her first back to deal with these mana problems. If they were intending to truly turn Yuumi into an afk champion, they are going the right way about it.

Magapiff1 votes

let me tell you a secret "looks around" look up Cut Down, item 3174 should be your first item ALLWAYS, dont use Absolute Force its absolute trash, remember Yuumi truly favors jg and tank allies because she gives them the damage they need and if need be she can also give them the passives of item 3001 item 3068, the item item 3050 is useful for almost everyone your tanks and jgs highly and it gives you needed survivability.

I haven't tried using a item 3094 on her yet but I could see a way of it being useful on her.

(surprise f**ker) item 3025 Yuumi item 3094

Yuumi or Dodge1 votes

Um, I didn't ask, I know how to play Yuumi. I'm just discussing her changes. I don't know if you're trolling, but item 3001, item 3068, item 3050, item 3025, and item 3094 are horrendous items on her.

Magapiff1 votes

I will admit I was very high writing this, but item 3050 really isn't all that bad on her and I recommend trying it

preternatural1 votes

i don't get it, the champion didn't need her hotfix buffs at all lol.

when rito actually fix the game again and people can play league, "omg yuumi is still broken thread saga"

PsychoKitteh1 votes

I build yuumi q first with ap and usually get multiple kills in lane phase. I spend most of my time not attached, and when I do attach it is to imediately cast a spell, or hitchhike on a recall. I think the change is great so my e takes less Mana from my q, but I will certainly miss her Mana refill on her passive.

Don't ever stay attached for long... winning League is all about positioning, and you need a full team for that.

Nea1041 votes
FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

The main issue is the intended utility. If u want an new enchanter don't make her like every other enchanter with ONE gimmick that doesn't even really bring anything new to the gameplay style.

They shoulda either made her a enchanter based on helping allies move around like in her teaser and story, or they should have doubled down on the possibility that she could really help melee carries shine in bot lane, or made her a team support power house.

All of these had the potential in her theme or kit, to make her interesting a unique not only theme wise but, to shake up the enchanter class a bit. But I fail 2 see how she operates all that much differently from the basic enchanter gameplay besides only sharpening the strong and weak points of the class. I think they need 2 go back 2 the drawing board and try again.

Troll Slaiyer1 votes

my yuumi stats: ATK: [][][][] DEF: [][] SPD: [][][] HP: []

KingSiegfried1 votes

Hahaha Riot makes me laugh so much, they're so pathetic. Yuumi is not even a real champ, and they're killing all the others. This is what happend when you absolutely want to change anything, even if it's already good.

MorgManBasher1 votes

She needs a rework, she is always going to be too strong or underpowered when the champion can literally afk inside someone and have no threat of death. There has to be ways to punish other than just killing her ADC to get her the Hell out.

Nielarken1 votes

Wow this sounds like Soraka/Sona 2.0 amazing. Riot doesn't like healing support but keeps making them to nerf them to the point where their healing is useless so they rely on their damage until riot remembers they don't like enchanter dealing damage so they nerf that too.

SosGrohiik1 votes

Phil swift here. To show you the power of flex tape i sawed this cat in half! Day 7 riot buffed yuumis burst healing on lower targets. I imagine this like a rengaR W he gets bursted and he undoes the burst. Thats what i think her heal should be for since your immune to auto attacks and abilities then you shouldnt be able to keep your adc at full health. The trade off is a sick nasty shield that stays for longer than a single auto attack and a W which gives your Adc stats. I feel like her Q should do less damage the distance it goes while in controled flight and when sent off alone should be classified as wild magic and not have this damage affect at the cost of obviously less range but more damage aince you cant aim it and its so slow if you get hit by an unguided Q you deserve to die. I feel like her R isn't ever talked about but i would prefer if it functioned like a jihn R give me control over the waves and directions so i can choose if i want to smack someone or stun a target give her options. Lastly to deal with the problem that is everyone wanting to shoot the cat... She has the smallest health pool in the game due to being untargetable. Perhaps when you stun the adc yuumi should be stunned too maybe not as long so she has a chance to either dismount or press E but chances are if yuumi sees that her adc is in the middle of lane and has the jungler support and adc she should have a reason for getting off the adc.

Just a fun thought. Please stop nerfing yuumi! <3

Ps these are theoretical not every part needs to or should be taken just some ways id rather see yuumi work rather than an afk healbot.

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