Make peel supports meta

FeistyPoptart·8/10/2018, 3:26:37 AM·6 votes·2,114 views

People keep complaining about how assassins make the game unfair because they have too much damage, but what about the supports? A very common complaint is that the moment you get hit by one cc, you die. Nobody seems to stop and think maybe its because both teams have an entire extra damage dealer. Plus, how are adcs expected to have fun when they are against Brand Velkoz Zyra Xerath every game forcing them to sit behind tower and farm until they have 3 items while STILL being outdamaged by the supports. Also, if champions like Soraka Janna Leona Alistar were more prevalent then assassins would have a much harder time killing squishies because the game would have something its been missing for a while now. Peel. Im not saying they need to bring the ardent meta back, I just think that they should maybe nerf the gold gotten from poking with item 3310 and move it somewhere else so real supports can utilize it better, like maybe it gives gold whenever you shield/heal an ally or something. Or maybe just nerf it so that its so bad mage supports cant even build it anymore, even though that's just a shitty idea. They could also buff item 3302 by having it give gold whenever you cc someone or maybe a mini courage of the colossus. Im sure that there are much better ideas for ways to change the support meta, but I just made these up on the spot, so don't go commenting "HAHA U TRASH GO KYS U CNT BALLUNSE GUD" because I know that its better left to someone who has better understanding of the game than I do.

9 Comments

Tiniest Turtle8/10/2018, 3:44:20 AM4 votes

Yes. There should be a balance between kill lane supports and supports that actually help keep their carries alive. They might not even have to buff adcs or nerf assassins if bot lane wasn't just poke vs poke or just Jhin and a hook support.

FrozenFrostFyre8/10/2018, 3:58:43 AM2 votes

people always talk about support ardent or tank meta like it was the worst, maybe the worst for people who didn't know how to use their brain and with the game strategically. anything is preferable over this braindead "me right clickTalon me go inMonkeyKing me one shotKhazix squishy hehehe assassins are balanced Zed pls give us more dashes" meta

Daddy Ants8/10/2018, 9:32:48 AM2 votes

Braum Q should never go through Minions.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Braum/

"50.2%"

He's not terrible, he's balanced.

undesirable team8/10/2018, 3:33:05 AM2 votes

no thanks id rather play a kill lane then farm for 20 minutes then just outscale

Malak8/10/2018, 4:03:43 AM1 votes

no, because then it becomes a game of better adc wins

if assassins are a problem just nerf assassins (and that's exactly what they're doing in 8.16)

Daddy Ants8/10/2018, 8:16:24 AM1 votes

Assassin's became an issue the moment Janna, Lulu and Karma got nerfed.

Peel Supports are intended to be a soft counter to Assassin's, Tanks being the hard counter.

Tanks aren't really relevant at the moment.

Janna Karma Lulu definitely needed their shield uptimes nerfed but giving Assassin's a train of direct and indirect buffs all season has contributed to the issue.

Let's have a look at some of the changes that benefit Assassin's.

Runes:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/1/1e/Domination_icon.png

WITH PRECISION 13 ability power/ 7.8 attack damage ⇒ 14 ability power/8.4 attack damage WITH SORCERY 18 ability power/ 10.8 attack damage ⇒ 20 ability power/12 attack damage WITH RESOLVE 9 ability power/ 5.5 attack damage ⇒ 10 ability power/6 attack damage WITH INSPIRATION 18 ability power/ 10.8 attack damage ⇒ 20 ability power/12 attack damage

Summoner Spells:

summoner 14 - Patch 8.6: Total true damage increased to 80 - 505 (based on level) from 70 - 410 (based on level).

summoner 7 - Patch 8.6: Cooldown increased to 270 seconds from 240 seconds.


Zed:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/3/34/Death_Mark.png - Death Mark (R) Patch 8.6: Percentage of damage stored increased to 25 / 40 / 55% from 20 / 35 / 45%. Patch 8.4: Cooldown reduced to 120 / 90 / 60 seconds from 120 / 100 / 80.


Talon:

Patch 8.4: Base magic resistance increased to 39 from 32.1. Patch 8.4: Base armor reduced to 30 from 32.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/74/Blade%27s_End.png/revision/latest?cb=20170818195032 - Blade's End (Passive) Patch 8.6: Base damage increased to 75 - 245 (based on level) from 75 - 175 (based on level).

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/6b/Noxian_Diplomacy.png/revision/latest?cb=20170818195043 - Noxian Diplomacy (Q) Patch 8.9: Range increased to 575 from 500.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/66/Shadow_Assault.png/revision/latest?cb=20170818195132 - Shadow Assault (R) Patch 8.6: Bonus AD ratio increased to 100% bonus AD from 80%.

Paroe8/10/2018, 8:30:26 AM1 votes

Braum needs but one change to be strong - his Q needs to stop on champion hit. It would let him compete with poke supports and marksmen whose skill shots go through minions. Compensation nerfs are fine, similar to how caitlyns Q works.

Alistar is also quite fine. Leona is quite fine. Thresh is quite fine.

Its... Its just braum thats in a terrible state right now.