I'm genuinely sorry for Xerath mains

Malicious Metal·Apr 12, 2017·136 votes·8,299 views

Their champion carries this stigma that he's only played by scripters and the moment they do well themselves the entirety of the enemy team is going to spam "report" in all chat.

Seriously, this is just sad.

81 Comments

DrCyanideApr 12, 201712 votes

Yeah, feels bad right now, but in 2-3 weeks they'll forget about it and go back to calling me a scripter for landing every ultimate shot as they run in a straight line.

OtherworldzApr 12, 20176 votes

You realize it's like 0.01% of all xerath players scripting right?

How do you come to the conclusion that he now has "stigma?"

Malicious MetalApr 12, 201773 votes

A few bad apples spoil the bunch. And Xerath has always been THE Scripter champion, just take a look at Korea SoloQ

SlythionApr 12, 20175 votes

I'd argue Kog is up there as a "scripter" champ as well

Arsenic SulfurApr 12, 201714 votes

Machine Gun Kog'maw yes. Scripters were the only ones who could orb walk during his W without losing out on DPS.

YerALizardHarryApr 12, 20171 votes

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Machine Gun Kog'maw yes. Scripters were the only ones who could orb walk during his W without losing out on DPS.

Like the reworked w kog'maw? its actually possible to orb walk with that shit wtf how funny does that look LOL

ZyrotApr 12, 20174 votes

Not as hard as it looks, it is just that league player, professional or otherwise, are not use to it and the type of kiting you have to do with that attack speed.

Carrie PigeonApr 14, 20171 votes

Like the reworked w kog'maw? its actually possible to orb walk with that shit wtf how funny does that look LOL

It looks as though Kog was sliding around on the ground his body constantly flipping directions between movement and firing. It was a bit depressing to see him be unreworked after spending 2ish hours in customs trying to orbwalk. Eventually went with an easy method of kiting by binding attack and attack move to a/s

QuephaApr 12, 201714 votes

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Machine Gun Kog'maw yes. Scripters were the only ones who could orb walk during his W without losing out on DPS.

there was a youtube video explaining how to orbwalk with a 5.0 AS kog'maw, it just requires a really convenient hotkey setup.

TheMinezApr 12, 20172 votes

Yea, with it I was canceling every other auto at 3.0 AS, with that problem being fixed for my kiting at around 3.50 + AS

Damn I miss playing that in the jungle from patches 5.22 - 6.19

Existence VIPApr 12, 20173 votes

same, i kinda liked the other kog with 5.0 attack speed... it made him feel special and not like the other adcs

SlythionApr 14, 20171 votes

Yes, I loved being shredded as

DrMundo item 3143 item 3075 item 3068 item 3065 item 3083 item 3047

in 2-3 seconds, fun times :^)

Existence VIPApr 28, 20171 votes

i mean you still get 3 shotted by vayne in about half the time

Bodkins OddsApr 12, 20171 votes

Actually, you just needed to have a convenient hotkey for attack move click and move click. Then you just alternate the hotkeys rapidly and, bam, 5.0 AS orb walking.

ChaoticPineconeApr 12, 20171 votes

5.0 AS is 5 attacks per seconds. Even if you hotkey an attackmove-click (which there isnt one in the game) and move-click, youre talking about inputing 10 commands every second from 2 fingers. Then you have to time it so you arent cutting off the important animations in the attack - youre basically saying you need to input 10 commands every second, and each command has to be in specific .1second intervals with no variance.

I really dont think thats possible.

junglerboy16Apr 12, 20172 votes

that's one input per finger every 0.2 seconds, well within human function. Once you practiced and reached a correct rhythm it became comparatively easy.

Bodkins OddsApr 13, 20171 votes

You can hotkey "attack-move-click" but you have to manually edit your settings file to do it.

notice me Sin piApr 12, 20171 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l4Z3MDmqvk&t=1955s

32:35

Carrie PigeonApr 14, 20171 votes

I'd argue Kog is up there as a "scripter" champ as well

It happens when you can kite with Kog or consistently land his ult with AP Kog. It's kinda funny to see although a bit depressing.

PaquayApr 12, 20171 votes

I'm genuinely curious as to why Xerath is the "go-to" champ for scripting. I'm a new player so haven't seen a bunch of past exploits and scripts, but what is it about Xerath's coding that makes him easily abusable?

SohleksApr 12, 20172 votes

It's his design I guess. He has good range and damage. His abilities are more up to the player to land than for the opponents to dodge so with extreme computer like precision he's very tough to play against. That's because his Q has no travel time but is just thin enough to be fair when normal people play him.

When people say scripter they are usually referring to what is like computer assistance playing their champion with extremely inhuman mechanical accuracy and reaction time dodging abilities the instant the game registers them and landing all abilities and kiting with mechanics better than korean challengers. That's why the other more known scripter champions are things like Cassio or Vayne, but that's just because it becomes very obvious then. They may script other champions too to less effectiveness but less obvious...

Scripters usually are lacking in the macro game though.

This particular issue is a bug and a script. If Xerath uses his Q a certain way on the map it'll glitch out and hit everything but it requires using it in a way that's not humanly possible to reproduce. Or so I've heard.

CudyDarkyzApr 12, 20175 votes

All of his skills are skillshots and he has no mobility spells so a aimbot scrip and a dodge scrip removes almost all counter play to him because of how fast his spells go off that and he has scripts for spell comcos here he can cast all his spell in half second or something. Its hard to dodge them when every single one is perfectly Aimed/Timed.

He is picked more then other skillshot mages because his skillshots are near instant compared to others like lux's, vel'coz's and zigg's travel time.

Just from stuff i looked at on Xerath's page he gets 1300 base damage just from his ult "if he lands all 5 shots but scripts" so his damage is really high.

PaquayApr 12, 20171 votes

Thanks for all the info. So basically, similar scripts would work for most all other champions but due to travel time or whatnot, aren't nearly as effective since they can still be dodged or reacted to? What a huge bummer for Xerath players.

Zenthon PrimeApr 12, 20172 votes

Yeah, it's a real shame, because otherwise Xerath is one of the most skill-dependent champions in the game. His power directly scales with your skillshot accuracy. In some respects an actual Xerath main can be scarier than a scripter because scripts can't snipe you from fog of war.

This bug has nothing to do with Xerath's kit, though. Anivia had a similar bug a while ago iirc.

CudyDarkyzApr 13, 20171 votes

Pretty much, You can dodge a scripted Lux q, but you have to predict that Xerath will predict your predict.

yay nibbersApr 12, 20171 votes

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A few bad apples spoil the bunch.

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BlåbæretApr 12, 20172 votes

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You realize it's like 0.01% of all xerath players scripting right?

How do you come to the conclusion that he now has "stigma?"

There's a lot of Xerath scripters. It's not exactly rare. If enemy pick Xerath I usually dodge.

OelykApr 12, 20176 votes

Thats a pretty heavy grudge.

Spicy RiceApr 12, 20176 votes

3 lp vs losing 18+ lp and mmr

CandoodleApr 12, 20174 votes

as a nunu main I can tell you that it only takes a few to forever tarnish the champion

I still get people asking me if i'm "disco" when i hover him

KingnewgameplusApr 12, 20171 votes

There's one for almost every champ.

Like how I'm apparently a grill gaymr because I'm a lux main.

It Hertz When IPApr 13, 20171 votes

That's legit the first time I've ever heard of that...

Spartan11710Apr 12, 20175 votes

OelykApr 13, 20173 votes

Brilliant.

Corvo AttanoApr 13, 20172 votes

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Brilliant.

Give this man an ~~orange~~ oscar

crippler38Apr 13, 20171 votes

Gangplank I'll take the orange.

Imagine GP as an actor tho.

Gangplank Critics are like oranges, I like them bloody.

TeCoolMageApr 13, 20174 votes

I go to the xerath mains discord and they actually take being called a scripter as a compliment

Glory97Apr 12, 20173 votes

It's part of the game to learn ignoring all the players who blame their team, riot, god, their not existing laggs and the enemy scripters for their loose. I also play xerath occasionally and i was also accused for scripting once or twice but i felt rather proud when they said i was scripting, although i wasn't scripting.

SniperkajApr 12, 20175 votes

To be fair, if an enemy Xerath can hit u every 5 seconds from the fountain, the loss would not be your fault, and the complaints would be justified :)

Glory97Apr 12, 20173 votes

True, but thats not the issue we talk about. It's the stigma that "every xerath player = scripter", and this isn't fair to all the people who play xerath but don't use any scripts

LimmieApr 12, 20172 votes

this isn't fair to all the people who play xerath but don't use any scripts

Yeah, I know that guy and it's so unfair to him.

JbelsApr 12, 20172 votes

I just hope this script bug doesn't become well know and used by everyone too bad to climb on their own

EpikFeederApr 12, 20171 votes

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I just hope this script bug doesn't become well know and used by everyone too bad to climb on their own

Why would it matter to you if someone else is silver or diamond?

ChaoticPineconeApr 12, 20172 votes

He never said it did. Climb is a relative term. Some people need to climb out of Bronze. Some people need to climb out of Diamond.

rtbf225618241Apr 12, 20172 votes

Isn't the script very easily identifiable by the global Q thing?

RalanrApr 12, 20171 votes

So wait, is it not a bug?

Sahn UzalApr 12, 201711 votes

It's an Exploit, but there also is a script involved. You can find some more stuff about it if you look for it.

Malicious MetalApr 12, 201722 votes

Yes and No.

It is a bug that only works on a particular spot in your base, having to charge Q for a certain amount. And there's a script that allows you to do that consistently.

FairyfleurApr 12, 20176 votes

If it was only a bug, Riot would've disabled him.

dim2aApr 14, 20171 votes

When I play Xerath if someone accuses me of scripting I take it as a compliment. Riot is very unlikely to punish people who do not actually use the script, so as a Xerath player I don't see what the problem is.

P.S. I am not quite Xerath "main", but he is my strongest midlaner, so I play him quite a bit when climbing.