Riot mentioned taking action if supports were being smothered out of their lane by Mages and Damage Dealers. After nerfs, we still see Zyra, Malzahar and MF dominating bottom lane.
What needs to change to get enchanters and warden's their role back?
Do Enchanters and Wardens need buffs or do does damage dealing supports need to be toned down?
Zielmann1 votesJanna: 52.5% win rate, 16% pick rate Lulu: 53% win rate, 21% pick rate Soraka: 52.5% win rate, 9% pick rate Nami: 50.5% win rate, 12% pick rate Sona: 53% win rate, 5% pick rate
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Malz: 49% / 5% Zyra: 49% / 8% MF: 42% / 2%
Enchanters aren't really getting crowded out for the vast majority of players. Though I do think they're getting somewhat falsely propped up by the current state of Locked/Redemption. If those were to get nerfed (which they likely need), enchanters might start having problems.
Aptest1 votesNot sure that is the case. Would love to see some redemption and locket nerfs though... ...but i am still waiting for fun alternative items for supports. with an emphasis on fun.
Skias1 votesJanna: 52.5% win rate, 16% pick rate Lulu: 53% win rate, 21% pick rate Soraka: 52.5% win rate, 9% pick rate Nami: 50.5% win rate, 12% pick rate Sona: 53% win rate, 5% pick rate
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Malz: 49% / 5% Zyra: 49% / 8% MF: 42% / 2%
Enchanters aren't really getting crowded out for the vast majority of players. Though I do think they're getting somewhat falsely propped up by the current state of Locked/Redemption. If those were to get nerfed (which they likely need), enchanters might start having problems.
Yeah, I was going to say, these champions aren't doing well because of their unique kits. They are breaking even using redemption and locket. Their laning phase is still liquid butt compared to damage supports.
PureSilvrr1 votesMalz and Zyra are horrible right now... All the Malz mains and players(myself included) are annoyed about how either MYMU or 6.23 made him a worse champion.. Malzahar should be mid, but the w changes finally nerfed his jungle out of anyviablity unless you main it and weakened his mid more.
Aptest1 votesNothing needs to change Heal/Shield/Buff/Protect casters are in a better spot than their competitors overall.
If anything, damage dealing supports should be slightly buffed.
ChaddyFantome1 votesimo, Enchanters were already more useful han Mage Supports mid to late game, but with the Damage nerfs on masteries, this is just that more the case.
Skias1 votesimo, Enchanters were already more useful han Mage Supports mid to late game, but with the Damage nerfs on masteries, this is just that more the case.
Actually because of Warden's naturally low dps, they become worse as ADCs and top finish their BC and LW.
ChaddyFantome1 votes???? what does this have to do with anything i just said?
