Yasuo's been banned in every game i've been in since 10 bans

Hexs Fortune··124 votes·5,059 views

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Meserion52 votes

Its because Yasuo is a mobile bruiser which is a cancer-esque champion type. Durable, mobile, and capable of doing very good damage at the same time.

until either his durability, damage, or mobility gets nerfed in a big way, Yasuo will continue to be perma-banned.

Ralanr18 votes

Dude he's not even that durable.

Zero Skill Tank34 votes

Yeah... until he gets BT at which point he outsustains Vlad.

Spicy Rice14 votes

Considering adcs do the same, and he's supposed to be a melee adc, that isn't so surprising.

Not to mention vlad is kinda ass ATM

Zero Skill Tank4 votes

ADC's don't do the same because they don't deal nearly as much lifesteal procing damage. Yasuo has some of the best steroids in the game, and lifesteals with Q.

Spicy Rice12 votes

The reasons they do the same is due to range advantage. Marksmen have range, so they can kite backwards while healing and doing damage.

On the other hand, yasuo is melee, meaning he has to facetank to get his lifesteal, so all things considered, the effectiveness of lifesteal is about the same.

Also, comparing steroids of adcs is stupid since they are all balanced around the adcs playstyle.

And while yasuo q does apply lifesteal, it only does so to the first target hit, not to mention it actually does less damage than his autos lategame.

Meanwhile, adcs have runnans hurricane, which procs lifesteal on every bolt that hits

GGLineaR2 votes

Maybe, but who plays Yasuo adc? He's only ever mid or top, and once in a blue moon, jungle.

IPromiseTomorrow18 votes

No he's right. He can't be durable if hes not infront of someone's face Lifestealing infront of them.

And also he isn't a bruiser unless someone builds him that way which isn't the best imo.

BoilTheOil2 votes

good thing grevious wounds is a thing

DeadUnborn1 votes

Yeah but mages need to purchase an entire item to access it unless its build into their kits, by which point yasuo has stomped most of them

BoilTheOil1 votes

so yasuo wins every matchup which is what your saying? Syndra Kassadin Fizz Anivia Heimerdinger all fuck yasuo which are also some strong mid laners right now and will stomp yasuo early or go even with him if they dont play like idiots

DeadUnborn2 votes

Except you are wrong because people on the forums never take statistical facts when discussing

These are all taking only plat and above overall LANE win rates

http://matchup.gg/matchup/Syndra/Yasuo/MID (yasuo stomps her) http://matchup.gg/matchup/Kassadin/Yasuo/MID (yasuo stomps him/what where you thinking?) http://matchup.gg/matchup/Fizz/Yasuo/MID (they go even and fizz is overtuned, ppl also complain about him) http://matchup.gg/matchup/Anivia/Yasuo/MID (yasuo stomps her) http://matchup.gg/matchup/Heimerdinger/Yasuo/MID (they go even, and since his rework heimer has gotten much stronger)

Now, care to indetify on your own using objective evidenece any other 4 mages that actually stomp on Yasuo (not go even) during lane phase? Oh and fizz and kassadin are AP assassins btw, not true mages

Sanctimonious2 votes

Despite what Matchup.gg says, Kayle wins this matchup mid lane. She loses it top, but wins it mid. She wins because of her E and yasuo not having the ability to punish an experienced Kayle out of lane. His windwall is only affecting her Q, and when it's down she can actively bully him with an even Q/E Max.

LB and Annie are two other good picks against him, if played right. http://matchup.gg/matchup/Leblanc/Yasuo/MID http://matchup.gg/matchup/Annie/Yasuo/MID

DeadUnborn2 votes

Kayle isn't a mage and loses lane both mid and top http://matchup.gg/matchup/Kayle/Yasuo/MID LB like fizz is overtuned and Riot has confirmed they want to remake her into a bust mage. also she goes even in lane Annie as you yorself showed on the link goes even (slightly loses) lane against Yasuo

Did you even see the links you shared with me? Also can you show me a mage that actually wins lane consistently against Yasuo. If we go by even win rates you have shown me like 3 mages that can maybe hope to win lane against Yasuo, 2 more to go I guess

GULAG 4 U1 votes

You act like most mages don't rush morello. Except they do.

DeadUnborn2 votes

except it costs 2400 and by that time Yasuo would most likely have won lane already or at least be dominant on it

Sp33d Zer04 votes

Could have sworn the best yasuo build was PD IE frozen mallet, BT, and a defensive item. That's pretty bulky. Not a bruiser, but not a squishy.

Corvid5 votes

Good thing he has infinite dashes to get close to someone huh?

IPromiseTomorrow8 votes

Conditional. only works if you're in a minion wave if you're in jg next to no monsters you're fine

DeadUnborn8 votes

Conditional my butt, in lane everytime you are fighting there will be minions around for Yasuo to dash, and when there are non he simply backs off and waits for more since there is no reason for him to be in lane if there are no minions to farm

IPromiseTomorrow8 votes

You can fight him when he's used up minions and zone him when he's out of minions. Doing damage to him early lvl 1 is very effective vs him to.

DeadUnborn4 votes

when he used up minions is because he left and is waiting for the enxt minion wave. Doing damage early is not effective because he ahs his shield and life steal, which you as a mage don't

IPromiseTomorrow3 votes

You can aim/predict skillshots. Against Yas do it well enough you'll win lane vs him.

Also baiting Yasuos are easy because all Yasuos even challenger Moe (Yassuo) gets Baird sometimes and even challenger Yasuos make mistakes

Did you know 100 of Yasuos kit is avoidable and e can be messed up? Not saying that makes yas balanced but it's proof he's able to be dealt with especially after that q nerf

DeadUnborn4 votes

Just because there is counter play against Yasuo doesn't mean there is FAIR counterplay against him. You have to actively rely on him messing up (hard) in order to be able to do soemthing agaisnt him and the windows of oportunity are miniscule. And even when he is behind he still has kill presure on you.

I'll make it easy for you by making an extreme example:

Imagine there is a champion whose kit is "in 20 minutes he automatically wins the game" but his counterplay is "if you autoattak the champion at exactly the first frame he starts placing a ward you win", then by your logic the champion would have counterplay and be fair to fight against, people just don't know how to predict when he will place a ward, they could bait him into warding.

Now Yasuo is obviously not this absurd, but he is too oppresive/versatile for him to be balanced/not frsutrating to play against

IPromiseTomorrow3 votes

There is also skill level. If a person says everything that counters Yasuo doesn't work or is night near impossible I'm sure Sol level is to questioned. The advise I gave does work, it's not troll, it works I've wpn 9/10 vs Yasuo as Azir. If you wanted some extra credibility.

Counter play is counter fair counterplay doesn't change anything. It's counterplay.

Most Yasuo qq threads describe to me the most prominent Yas in NA. But these players are in Bronze to plat.

No way are these Yas players God's. Not even Yassuo a challenger Yas is perfect. A good of game knowledge and matchups 2v1 master but still loses games. Yas can be beat. Even after his 2 item spike you just to do the same thing I described and it works.

There's no EZ SECRET to abuse, for Yasuo to be useless. Also champs get fed or they don't Don't tell me every lvl7 Yas was fed in your game. You know why? Because the laner knows how to play vs Yasuo. Simple as that.

(Copy pasted like you did cause I have no time And it seems fair enough. )

DeadUnborn1 votes

Here we go again giving anectodal evidence. Can you show me where you are getting your counter play works 9/10 times? other than your opinion that is.

You mentioned skill level. Well if you disect lane win rates for Yasuo against mages plat and above then you can greatly mitigate that avriable since at that lvl of play only like the 20% most skilled total player base is playing, Yasuo wins there more often than not. You can look of the win rates that are posted in this thread or google them.

As I show you in my example, counter play is not always fair. A more ground example is how next patch Riot is coing to increase Rek Sai's new ult hit box because the enemy can dodge it too easily (too much counter play) thus it is not fair for the Rek Sai player (it can go both ways).

I repeat, just because someone is human and can screw up doesn't mean the overall mechanics of a champion are fair, as is shown by the win rates for skilled players.

And lastly, the only way a Yasuo can consistently lose a game is if you win lane against him and then end the game before the 30 minute mark, which without premades working with you is not reliable at all. Look at Yasuo's win rate by game lenght in union with his KDA ratio, you will notice 2 things:

As the game goes on, his win rate increases drastically He has more deaths than most other champs on average.

this means that Yasuo can either stomp lane and win, or lose and farm back up until he absolutly dominates late game because of how hard he scales. In contrast, characters like vayne and master yi have weak early games to compensate their late game potential, and characters like Riven and Fiora need to stay ahead to be relevant because their TF potential late game is not as good and they have to close games by dominating with xp or become irrelevant

IPromiseTomorrow2 votes

Also how old are you? o.o?

DeadUnborn2 votes

25, and you are making this weird btw :)

statelesskiller3 votes

ADC's out sustain vlad ever since they reworked him. what are you on about item 3153 item 3072 CONGRATS you now have the never die starter pack bonus points if you haveitem 3046 item 3031

Luminier2 votes

Lol. I don't think you know what durable means, but okay.

Zero Skill Tank2 votes

able to withstand wear, pressure, or damage; hard-wearing

Perfectly fits Yasuo after a single lifesteal purchase

Luminier2 votes

If that's the case then most ADCs are "durable" after a single lifesteal purchase as well, lol.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Yasuo reaches that durability faster because he just needs 2 items for 100% crit chance. To get the same amount of lifesteal, ADCs have to invest alot more. On top of that, Yasuo has a shield.

Thefrostyviking3 votes

What he should be saying is poke resistant and short trade specialized.

Which is quite a frustration to deal with by itself.

Altho that by itself is not reason to ban.

Zero Skill Tank3 votes

How is he "short trade specialized" when a bit of lifesteal makes him win extended duels with all but a few champions?

Poske2 votes

Ironicly he wins long trades because of fervor and no cooldown on q

Luminier1 votes

Funny how Yasuo has been about the same since he was released, minus a few changes. But all of a sudden this anti-Yasuo circlejerk sprang out of nowhere and now everyone's saying "as long as he's Yasuo he'll be banned." Yeah, alright. But what about Season 4 and 5 and the early-mid portions of season 6 when this hate train was nonexistent? Hmm :thinking:

Zero Skill Tank3 votes

Yasuo was complained on since his release, if you think otherwise you either never visited forums/boards back than, or are delusional and should seek profesional aid.

He wasn't complained as much, because he wasn't as strong as he is now.

For example, in earlier seasons he was non-existant as a toplaner - basically every melee champion had enough "oompf" to beat him with relative consistency. But as items changed, Yasuo's situation change with them.

Luminier2 votes

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if you think otherwise you are delusional and should seek profesional aid.

Lol that really wasn't necessary or relevant to say, but alright.

There are points in time where Yasuo has been stronger. And plus, the Yasuo circlejerk started when he was pretty average. It came seemingly out of nowhere, and it's a testament to mob mentality. You see it on the boards all the time.

And what items have changed so much for Yasuo and no other champions? You're being very selective with what your arguments are. Yasuo isn't the only one who was boosted or nerfed by itemization changes.

Thefrostyviking2 votes

I object!

I hated Yasuo from the start, i am one of the legendary, rare, and not so extraordinary existences.

An original hater.

LankPants50 votes

200% banrate

FeelsCampedMan20 votes

N e w a n d e x c i t i n g t h r e a d

Proxy3456 votes

Everyone knew this would happen lol He's banned on both teams in every match I've been in so far.

Trogmar4 votes

They should just ditch the crit passive and force him to build damage bruiser .

teKritin9 votes

Bring back tank Yasuo, will go perfect this time promise.[slayer-jinx-wink]

SUPERX4PANDA11 votes

Are you kidding? item 3046 item 3022 item 3812 was the one time I would agree that Yasuo was blatantly overpowered. That's like asking for tank Ekko Fizz Akali to be far superior to assassin, and that's never a fun time.

Raiyza4 votes

Praise God.

rengar vore4 votes

RIP YASSUO

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