.. that a huge frog, who had to sew two coats together because of his size and whose quotes are 90% about food can have more base movement speed than an ice phoenix who flies around.
I'm not asking for any changes, but to be honest 
's base MS is depressingly low compared to almost all of the recent champions.
ChaoticPinecone61 votesfitness basics 101 - if you dont warm up, youre muscles tighten up. Anivia, who is perma-cold, cannot get an effective warmup.
Diananmen Square13 votesStand next to her using a 
. That should warm her up.
Rew7115 votesFighting 
or 
should also do the trick. I really wouldn't mind her having 340 MS.
Ralantha3 votesfitness basics 101 - if you dont warm up, youre muscles tighten up. Anivia, who is perma-cold, cannot get an effective warmup.
Misnomer: muscles are never cold or warm- either they have oxygen flowing through them at a faster rate than previous to work more efficiently or they don't. Fitness 202
MacDthree1 votes
YumaS2Astral40 votesTo be honest, an huge, obese and drunk guy 
has more base movement speed than a dwarf piloting an airplane 
DanLikesBacon17 votesAn huge
Bouffon dAnglais12 votesI honestly don't understand how people mix these two up. 'a' and 'an', 'your' and 'you're'. It's like mixing up 'catastrophe' and 'cat ass trophy'.
Minrog13 votesIn examples like 'an historic' versus 'a historic' it depends on the regional dialect that you speak. Some English speakers pronounce the 'h' as a hard consonant and for others it is silent. It automatically changes which preceding word you would use.
It is a completely different issue for 'your' and 'you're',
Thunder Dreamss3 votesTo expand on Minrog's point, if YumaS2Astral is from an area where huge is pranced "uege" then "an huge" is indeed correct.
WhereIsMyBeefalo2 votesIf the following word starts with a consonant sound, then we say a:
a cat a game of golf a human emotion a very nice lady
If the following word starts with a vowel sound, then we say an:
an apple an easy job an interesting film an old man an umbrella
Bouffon dAnglais1 votesI understand that, I just don't understand how you could get these two mixed up.
MacDthree1 votes..."these too"
gtfo.
Bouffon dAnglais1 votesWhat's the problem with "these two"?
MacDthree1 votesyou bitched about his spelling and grammar, and then say "these Too"
as in "these also"
maybe you shouldn't judge people so harshly. Especially considering "a" and "an" are really just one letter off and easily could have been a typo.
Bouffon dAnglais1 votesOkay, thanks. Corrected it. Didn't notice. Also, it wasn't meant to "bitch about his grammar".
MacDthree1 votessome people don't speak English natively.
MIND BLOWN
ChaoticPinecone2 voteswhen your plane can be snatched out of the air with a scythe (
) its a pretty crappy plane.
And fat people cant be fast. Santa travels the entire world and stops at each house in one night.
DrProfVibeCheck21 votes...he's a fish.......A FISH GODDAMNIT.
Vistha Kai17 votesA Catfish Monster! Call Jeremy Wade!
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesYes! River Monsters! One of my fave shows!
What Is Smite4 votesJeremy Wade: Now this fine specimen we caught here is the League of Legends River Catfish, weighing up to an excess of 350 pounds or more they can be devastating to anyone unprepared to handle them. Leagues River Catfish are know to grant the wishes of those who fall upon misfortune, and once the unfortunate reach the peak of their desire's the League Catfish tends to devour all that they hold dear. Truly a monster.
Yorukin14 votesI don't mind Anivia's movement speed too much--it sucks getting around the map, but it's not too important in combat since you have an instant wall and ever-present CC to play with. While I admit the few other immobile champs we've been seeing recently (Sion, Tahm, and Vel'Koz jump to mind) do have more MS than her, Vel is the only one without an excuse for it, and he's in a perfectly good balance spot.
...I would like to see an improvement to Anivia's basic attacks though. For having such abysmal AD and AS, her attack frames are still among the lowest in the game. Kinda awkward to farm with.
ChaoticPinecone2 votesI like her basic attacks. If you make it easier to farm with autos, then youd probably have to lose the 600 range.
Yorukin4 votesWhy do you like them? I'm legitimately curious, because compared to pretty much any other mage in the game, Anivia has the most trouble farming, despite being incredibly gold-reliant in order to get her RoA and Seraph's as quickly as possible.
Now, I can understand having bad basic attacks as a weakness. Anivia's a burst mage who specializes in area control, and has rather high damage, fantastic CC, a really good wall, and a revival passive. All this on top of one of the best waveclears in the game, as long as she has enough mana and AP to use it as such.
The problem, then, lies in farming without her ultimate, which is what you'll want to focus on pre-6 anyway. Anivia has incredibly low AD, low enough that farming under her turret is a massive pain. Combined with a low attack speed and moderate projectile speed, and it becomes really easy to whiff the minion. And with slow attack frames, you have to stand (hover?) in a potentially bad spot for noticeably longer than most midlaners to get the attack off, the frustration of which is compounded by her attack sound playing before the crystal launches--the same problem that Quinn and Garen have received complaints about in the past.
I mean, even Karthus got his abysmal attack frames buffed at some point after his VU, despite that he can easily just farm with Lay Waste, and possibly harass the enemy in the process. Why does Anivia deserve such an awkward attack in this environment?
ChaoticPinecone3 votesWhen i used to play a lot of Anivia, i noticed two things: her pre-6 harass sucks, but her pre-6 mana costs/waveclear are amazing. Her pre-6 harass is mostly autoattacks unless you have an opponent that cant dodge the Q, and having 600 range helps. Her windup and recoil animation are very long, and i get that. But if you had a fast auto-animation, you really cant leave her 600 range - id rather have 600 range and a slow animation than, say, 550 range and a fast animation (if we remember Annie, both her 625 range and her attack speed were nerfed when they decided to change her). And its not like Anivia has amazing kill pressure pre-6 to want to get a ton of autoattack harass off.
Anivia has very little problems farming pre 6, since her Q (if you get both procs off) can clear the casters ridiculously early into the game. You need to clear the melees, and having 600 range allows you to do that safely. Her base AD is fairly normal for a ranged Mage. Its not as bad as Vlad, Fiddle, or Annie, but its not as strong as Morg or Lux. Its also fairly normal in growth.
Also, in comparison to some other champs, her autoattack isnt abnormally bad. I find that a lot of Mids have horrible auto animations. I find that Malz, Veigar, Heimer, Karthus, and Swain's animations are just as hard to farm with.
macromite8 voteskarthus uses autoattacks? I don't believe that, its just a myth.
Melledoneus1 votesYou ever played 
?
I can't begin to tell you how hard Riot made it to farm with a melee champion.
Stiv12341 votesYou do know that Maokai has both the highest Base AD and the highest Base Attackspeed?
Melledoneus1 votesActually, that would technically be Rammus. HIs passive gives him that AD, and it can technically be considered base since he gets it without runes.
Also, highest attack speed goes to Olaf, who has a .003 higher attack speed. But I digress.
I was talking about his basic attack wind-up, which takes nearly half a second to pull off. It's extremely hard to farm with basic attacks with , as a .3 AD difference doesn't make up for the fact that the animation for his autos is extremely slow and hard to CS with. But Riot intended it with good reason, so I guess we can conclude I just came here to complain because I'm a Bronze scrub who obviously doesn't deserve to speak his mind about things that make champions frustrating at times.
DynamiteGazelle9 votesYeah, I learned long ago not to try to apply logic to move speed values..
Wickedfates3 votesat the moment he has higher base than 
too... and she floats through the air
silly tanky waddling frog
Ariel the Cruel3 votes
Has tier 1 move speed, a massive speed steroid, and a gap closer.
Has tier 1 move speed and a gap closer.
Has tier 1 move speed, a gap closer, a speed steroid.
Has tier 1 move speed, a gap-closer, and a near-global teleport (Originally was global).
Based on this, doesn't have enough mobility to justify having greater move speed.
Try using {{Valor}} instead.
The Trent1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ariel the Cruel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8WIAZg9z,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2015-06-28T15:17:26.272+0000)
Based on this,
Lol Pantheon is horrible late game, Gnar is completely useless if he falls behind, Eilse is trash tier and Yi is like right above trash tier. Anivia might not have a lot of movement speed but she has a slow, a wall, a stun and great burst with low cds. Her passive also is great for those early ganks if you push a little too hard. Pro tip, try tp anivia, tp right when you're about to die and it continues in egg form. Most of the time u don't even have to use that tip cus u get dived and u get a double kill while they try to kill u in egg form. Anivia is a great champ if played by the right person.
Melledoneus1 votesYou're trash tier.
Drops the mic :P
FatesDefiler2 votesspeed is a function of strength, not size. otherwise flies would zip at 100 mph and elephants would take a week to walk a yard.
Diananmen Square6 votesStill, I don't think that he sew 2 coats together because he has plenty of muscle.
macromite1 votesactually, its more like a mix of size and strength to make up speed. one elephant step far outclasses that of the fly, therefore, if an elephant and a fly were to walk side by side, the elephant would walk farther. perhaps that explains the movement issue, or maybe its because anivia is ranged and tahm is melee and balancing stuff.
kJs1 votes[deleted]
Diananmen Square2 votesYes he is.
DeynaTaggerung1 votesAnd yet because a few lines of text is smaller then a gif you can move those files far faster (think thousands of miles in seconds as my words here are doing). Whereas an elephant can't nearly match that speed.
Ayame Isaki4 votesIncorrect analogy. Bit rate (throughout, which is the closest you get to velocity in your analogy; electrons through copper or light through fiber move at relativistic speed so velocity is irrelevant in networking; latency is introduced by packet processing in the hops or signal loss due to interference) is the same for large and small files. That means the large file and small file move at the same speed. The large file has more bits so it takes longer.
EternalDarknez1 votesdo you want the best turret hugger/defender in the game to have fast movementspeed? or on par with most?
granted im not saying its to fast/slow now just saying overall it should be slower, for all i know its crawl speed and needs to be upped
just saying it should be slower than most considering the type of champ she is
Diananmen Square4 votesTL;DR: Heimerdinger can have more movementspeed than anivia, even though he has an ever safer laning?
Ariel the Cruel1 votesBut he not a turret hugger or defender.
He's a turret creator.
Diananmen Square4 votesHe creates turrets then hugs them.
The Trent1 votesI wish their was a bird champ that was super fast omg u just like wow u gave me a dream champion
TheNeemDream4 votesI wish their was a bird champ that was super fast omg u just like wow u gave me a dream champion
macromite7 votes