An Insiders view on why Irelia *should* be nerfed.

Starcall Casey··10 votes·1,285 views

He's mained irelia for a long long time. and this is his view on why Irelia should be nerfed.

16 Comments

FantasySniper4 votes

When Irelia gets behind, she's not really behind. I can remember several games where despite me being ahead with 2 more full items, Irelia could "outplay me" simply using the base power in her kit.

Then when Irelia gets ahead, she becomes a monster who the whole team has to totally focus on or risk losing teamfights simply because she has that much presence, where even being in the teamfight probably means they win by default.

Fadedpf1 votes

Got item 3078 "Out played noob :^)"

LadyRenly3 votes

irelia haters are just a bunch of QQers who got greedy by diving a 25% irelia under tower

Starcall Casey11 votes

Not true, Irelia is an insanely strong champion that is almost impossible to truely punish for bad play. People who hate on Irelia do have a good point against her because she is just that strong.

It's not all black and white when it comes to players who don't like champion. Vayne haters aren't all a bunch of no lock down tanks and Ekko haters aren't all a bunch of mid lane mages with no lock down/mobility.

Edyr4203 votes

or just the fact that once irelia gets her triforce you get destroyed by her without a real chance to escape.

Sir Yamazuki5 votes

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irelia haters are just a bunch of QQers who got greedy by diving a 25% irelia under tower

You're punished for beating her, if you're winning 1v1, she stuns you and is suddenly winning. She also basically wins by default against a lot of squishier targets even when behind. Flask also removes any chance of killing her in lane if you happen to pick a champion that could kill her early.

Last time I went top against an Irelia they fed me and could still easily 1v1 me, or anyone else, despite how far ahead I was. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1826679412/31948940?tab=overview

Hard4Hamsters3 votes

gbay99 is a great youtuber. He puts out a video every day now, and he has a lot of variety in his videos. I'm dreading the amount of "Better Nerf Irelia" spam that comes after this (though she has only had one nerf in 3 years now), but I'm giving this my upvote. I'm not really under the impression that Irelia is super OP right now, but she has been consistently strong in any meta and becomes very strong in more favorable metas, and I think it really speaks to what gbay points out; she isn't really punished for falling behind as much as other champions in the same class (midgame power carries).

Anyway. That's just my opinion. Feel free to comment. Peace.

Baby Ghoul3 votes

"Bad play does not get punished." That is so true. I wish more people in my bronze/silver games noticed how dangerous she is. I don't see her often, but she comes back so easily if she loses lane, which she rarely does because of who is current popular picks. She either wins it, or goes even and moves on. You have to almost try to feed as an Irelia in most match ups.

All that's ever played top lane in my games is Tryndamere Garen Jax , and Nasus, who when playing against her, farms for a late game that rarely comes because of her.

The champions that naturally give her a hard time are Renekton Darius Pantheon Volibear, but I don't see them as often. So she's in a very good spot right now, on top of how forgiving her game play is compared to the majority of top laners.

If she's able to help other lanes succeed, then you're going to have more than one problem on your hands. It's the worst. This is usually what I see Irelia players do if they think that they won't be able to carry on their own because she'll be targeted.

LordGeovanni2 votes

thats just people not respecting your cc tankyness and healing. and then later on damage that like saying an adc shouldnt have any damage if they lost early and fianlly got their bf sword

SwapShadows2 votes

Riot is trying very hard to fix the "bad plays going unpunished" !!!!

they are on the case and released Kalista and Tahm kench to help

(sarcasm)

WutsKraken1 votes

Nasus Come at me

Anyway, can't speak for anyone higher elo than me, but down here, I can keep her in check

Davy Crockett1 votes

Wanna go? Ryze

OperationDEEZ11 votes

Yeah, right? She's so unfun to play against.

50000000000000001 votes

Someone says to nerf Irelia? Better nerf Irelia.

Catlinite1 votes

I don't quite think she needs a nerf. She's certainly not under powered, but shes not quite over powered either. She brings a lot to the table, but she has weaknesses as well. At most, she might need a slight tweak here and there. Perhaps the tenacity from her passive lowered a bit so that the enemy team can give their squishies a little more breathing room?

SaltyKracka1 votes

In the end, it's probably not going to be the passive tenacity.

I personally suspect that the best candidates for nerfs on Irelia are either her stun (shit's way too strong), her true damage and healing (you should be able to itemize against her in lane, and playing a gapclosing assassin-ish bruiser with innate healing...) or even simply her Q range/mana cost (shit makes her safe in lane, means she never misses cs, and provides her with one hell of an engage)

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