Nasus Stacks

RedPandaFury·Mar 2, 2016·2 votes·1,279 views

Next nerf needs to be a limit on Nasus stacks. It's broken that he can just endlessly stack and basically out do himself without items.

17 Comments

LegitBusinessmanMar 2, 20167 votes

Now that poppy has been reworked, Nasus probably has the single weakest laning phase in the entire game. If you're getting dumped that hard you're not playing the matchup right.

RedPandaFuryMar 2, 20161 votes

Oh look someone else with no sense of CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.

IcyPepperMar 3, 20162 votes

He used the same level of logic in your OP, dude.

CrettMar 2, 20164 votes

I gotta admit, Nasus can be pretty annoying sometimes with the splitpushing but come on; it's all he has.

Leave The Dog Be

ModWulf HelhammerMar 2, 20162 votes

One change I wish they would add in would be to either reduce (or remove if it isn't too punishing) his passive working with Q. I understand that he is a time bomb and all that, but for the fact that even a competent nasus is just going to keep staking Qs, only certain champions can actually do anything to delay that. Past a certain point (and not even that late), his Q has enough damage that he can shrug off Jayce poke with a single minion Q, making the whole "poke and kite him down" thing not very effective.

RedPandaFuryMar 2, 20161 votes

Thank you for being constructive instead of just criticizing.

Ravenous HowlsMar 3, 20162 votes

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One change I wish they would add in would be to either reduce (or remove if it isn't too punishing) his passive working with Q. I understand that he is a time bomb and all that, but for the fact that even a competent nasus is just going to keep staking Qs, only certain champions can actually do anything to delay that. Past a certain point (and not even that late), his Q has enough damage that he can shrug off Jayce poke with a single minion Q, making the whole "poke and kite him down" thing not very effective.

This is by and large the worst idea I've ever heard. Without his ability to life steal from his Q he would never be able to trade with any champion in the game even a support. It is his ability to sustain from his stacks that keeps him relevant. There are tons of ways to abuse Nasus's early game but if you refuse to do so then he will and should out scale and murder you and your team. It's his reward for playing well and getting properly farmed. It's not different than Riven, Fiora or Jax scaling ludicrously from a single kill except Nasus has to work at it for a significantly longer period of time.

Also this myth that unlimited stacking is broken is just that, a Myth. High stacks does not mean instant win for Nasus. If you have a high CC comp and a adc half their salt then you can easily crush Nasus but if Nasus's team has equal or superior lock down and CC then they could get him inside your team's ranks and let him wreck all of you. Here in is the truth. Nasus is only as strong as him team. If your team refused to help shut him down or allowed him to make picks and split push then that is poor play not a broken mechanic.

ModWulf HelhammerMar 3, 20161 votes

I didn't say unlimited stacking is a problem. And if it's too much of a hindrance, then his natural AA based lifesteal could be increased.

The thing is that with a single moderately farmed Q (an ability with a pretty short cooldown), he is negating poke completely from champions that are entirely poke based. The number of champions that can actually stop him farming are increasingly lower, as with newer itemization, early bullies are easier negated, while also allowing Nasis to pick up damage without sacrifice his durability

Ravenous HowlsApr 20, 20161 votes

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I didn't say unlimited stacking is a problem. And if it's too much of a hindrance, then his natural AA based lifesteal could be increased.

The thing is that with a single moderately farmed Q (an ability with a pretty short cooldown), he is negating poke completely from champions that are entirely poke based. The number of champions that can actually stop him farming are increasingly lower, as with newer itemization, early bullies are easier negated, while also allowing Nasis to pick up damage without sacrifice his durability

At most Nasus will build IBG/TF with Sterak's Gage hardly a powerhouse combo of raw damage in items. Nasus needs to negate poke if he is going to duel. Most duelers have innate life steal or burst to help them kill their target. Look at Jax, Renekton, Darius or Fiora all of them have one if not both of these. Nasus doesn't get any kind of burst without farm. The others get it much faster and more reliably built in their kit or itemization.

You are whining about a skill that is his only source of damage and hardly is it the same threat level as an ADC build consisting of 250AD, 1.5 Attack Speed, at least 50% crit chance and probably 20% Life steal with BT. For a ranged champion this means you will be kited to death and be dead before ever reaching them on a melee like Yi or Fiora they can blink to you and destroy you in several auto's or burst from their high damage kits. Nasus has one ability to do damage not 3 or 4 and by capping that damage he would need more than an arbitrary Life Steal buff.

FioraWillCarryMar 2, 20163 votes

You know how long it takes a get a decent amount of stacks with him ? Unlimited stacks is fine. If you allowed him to accumulate that many stacks then you deserved to be shat on by him.

RedPandaFuryMar 2, 20161 votes

It doesn't take that long when there's not a thing you can do to stop him from killing minions. But thanks for your non constructive criticism, another problem with our community.

FioraWillCarryMar 2, 20161 votes

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It doesn't take that long when there's not a thing you can do to stop him from killing minions. But thanks for your non constructive criticism, another problem with our community.

Ok you want me to be clear ? Your idea is stupid. Clear enough now ?

LXIIMar 3, 20161 votes

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It doesn't take that long when there's not a thing you can do to stop him from killing minions. But thanks for your non constructive criticism, another problem with our community.

I guess this depends on your idea of how many stacks is a good amount. Nasus won't have 500 stacks in 10 minutes, it just won't happen. If you do literally nothing to stop him you're looking at MAYBE 175 if he has cdr, significantly less if he doesn't. And I know you're thinking "OMGGGG THEA!!! 175 EXTRA DAMAGE?! WHAT CAN I DO?!" Simple.. you just cc him and kill him anyway. Does the enemy Nasus have 1000 stacks now? CC him and kill him. Did this godlike silver nasus somehow get 1,000,000 stacks? CC him and kill him. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've stacked up to like 800 and still lost because the enemy just goes all in on me and my team runs thinking I can just 1v5, it doesn't go down like that. There is counterplay, you just have to apply it.