Why is it ...

RedPandaFury·Dec 26, 2015·2 votes·736 views

Why is that the people that choose to troll this game are least punished? But those that are upset at this person and voice it as they see fit are chat restricted and/or banned because they used strong words? [slayer-jinx-unamused]

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Hunts and DipsDec 26, 20155 votes

Here's an analogy to help you understand...

Picture a crowded room full of people. It's relatively quiet until someone randomly starts yelling insults at everyone. Then, another person starts yelling back at them in an equally impolite and crude manner. What this does is turn one problem into an even bigger one for everyone else, because instead of one jerry yelling there are now two.

You see what I'm saying? A person being toxic doesn't give you the free pass to rip on him. You can ask them to shut up or just mute them, but don't flame them back.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

RedPandaFuryDec 26, 20151 votes

Still not my point. Riot is faster to ban the 'flame' than they are the 'ignition'. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

alasarcherDec 26, 20151 votes

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Still not my point. Riot is faster to ban the 'flame' than they are the 'ignition'. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Because flame is easier to detect.

Troll for TrumpDec 26, 20151 votes

Actually. A better analogy. A room full of crowded people. One of them turns out to be The Joker, and starts killing everyone. A random person freaks out, and everyone just tells him to shut up and calm down, but he keeps freaking out. The Joker keeps killing people as this happens. Eventually, people just keep yelling at the person to shut up, but the Joker, who is repoised, keeps killing without a second thought or any resistance.

EndlessSorcererDec 26, 20151 votes

Well said.

Truly PridefulDec 26, 20153 votes

So you think them doing something wrong justifies you doing something wrong? Just report them after the game and move on, it's really that simple and you won't get yourself in trouble.

RedPandaFuryDec 26, 20151 votes

Didn't say it was justified --- but the fact remains that when someone is reported for language it only sends what that player said --- when out of context ANY conjecture of words can sound rude, mean, toxic, etc. Also, as I stated above -- Bans come faster to the person upset than the one that made them upset.

Hunts and DipsDec 26, 20151 votes

False

Truly PridefulDec 26, 20151 votes

You wouldn't get a report at all if you didn't blow up. Like I said, report and move on because what does attacking the troll actually accomplish? I've never seen a troll stop just because someone went berserk on them. All you can do is finish out the game and let them get reported, no reason to put your own account at risk for someone who is clearly a lost cause.

JubbinautDec 26, 20151 votes

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Why is that the people that choose to troll this game are least punished?

Because currently, non-verbal toxic behaviors are more difficult to accurately detect. As such, it takes somewhat longer for them to receive punishment. However, the punishment scale for non-verbal toxicity is much shorter - starting with a 14-day ban, and moving straight to perma-ban on a second offense. In fact, it's quite possible to skip the 14-day ban stage, depending on what they're doing and how often they're doing it.

So while the punishments for non-verbally toxic players are fewer, they're also harsher.

But those that are upset at this person and voice it as they see fit are chat restricted and/or banned because they used strong words?

Because that's also not acceptable. And it's easier to detect.

RedPandaFuryDec 27, 20151 votes

I appreciate your reply and I understand that it's on me to keep calm and play on ---- but it's hard when you get people that cheer on trolls/feeders/toxic people that aren't on their team not to mention the trolls themselves. And then you spend the next three to four games with the same people because you don't want to dodge. I wish blocking players went back to a lower chance of being in games with those players. That would help a lot rather than depending on a report taking them out either temporarily or permanently.

JubbinautDec 27, 20151 votes

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I appreciate your reply and I understand that it's on me to keep calm and play on ---- but it's hard when you get people that cheer on trolls/feeders/toxic people that aren't on their team not to mention the trolls themselves. And then you spend the next three to four games with the same people because you don't want to dodge. I wish blocking players went back to a lower chance of being in games with those players. That would help a lot rather than depending on a report taking them out either temporarily or permanently.

It's definitely frustrating to wind up back in the same game as jerks that you just dealt with. Unfortunately, there's not a lot that Riot can do on their side to prevent that without risking screwing matchmaking up entirely (that is, making it effectively meaningless).

Something you can do to help, though, is wait a couple minutes before queuing up again after a game with people you don't want to deal with. Usually, I'll just go check Facebook for about five minutes before going back into queue. This usually ensures that they're already in a lobby before you even press the "play" button - so you shouldn't have to deal with them. It's... less than perfect, but it is pretty effective.