What if we replaced Barrier with a Zhonya's effect?

Hyrum Graff··1 votes·338 views

Spitballing here: barrier is currently a WAY underused summoner spell, because it competes so directly with heal: one is always stronger than the other. So what if we replaced barrier with a new summoner, "Stasis", that was basically a Zhonya's active on a flash-like cooldown?

Write your opinions about what would happen in the comments.

edit: I'm not saying we SHOULD do it, I'm wondering what would happen if we DID.

14 Comments

TNHA Baritone1 votes

I'm not sure. It could work but then you get crying assassin mains who claim that it counters their champions.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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I'm not sure. It could work but then you get crying assassin mains who claim that it counters their champions.

Well, yes. But:

  1. Change gets made, assassins have a hard time killing carries who take Stasis.
  2. Assassins winrates all drop
  3. Assassins get buffed ....
  • Happy Assassin Mains
TNHA Baritone1 votes

Happa Assassin Mains, Sad Support and ADC main.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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I'm not sure. It could work but then you get crying assassin mains who claim that it counters their champions.

I'm also not sure that it would necessarily counter assassins. It might be really good on assassins, too. Go in, full combo the adc, then stasis while waiting on cooldowns or for follow up. I'd love to build Diana without a zhonya's, but still have that effect.

Would probably be hella broken on Fizz, though, who could E -> zhonya -> stasis -> E for like 8 seconds of untargetability.

TNHA Baritone1 votes

Oh hell No...UH UH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

No...NO... . No.

thank you for bringing up that point LOL

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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Oh hell No...UH UH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

No...NO... . No.

thank you for bringing up that point LOL

Yeah they'd need to nerf the cd on the troll pole. Which I am 100% okay with.

TNHA Baritone1 votes

amen to that

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

No.

No.

HELL NO.

/wrist

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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No.

No.

HELL NO.

/wrist

What would happen, though?

I'm not saying we SHOULD do it, I'm wondering what would happen if we DID.

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hyrum Graff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8V2rZWBx,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-01-20T12:10:53.746+0000)

What would happen, though?

I'm not saying we SHOULD do it, I'm wondering what would happen if we DID.

What would happen?

All the junglers would rage and uninstall this game.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Evolve Kha Penis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8V2rZWBx,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-01-20T12:15:42.748+0000)

What would happen?

All the junglers would rage and uninstall this game.

I dunno, I'm not sure that Zhonya's is actually that great at avoiding ganks. It means you can't move for 2.5 seconds.

Stasis would be good vs tower dives, but also good for diving.

TNHA Baritone1 votes

Are you following me mang.

You want sum?

xDD

Catastrop1 votes

No. Underused? Sure. But it serves its purpose well. Keep me alive while I'm being bursted so I can burst them/run away.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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No. Underused? Sure. But it serves its purpose well. Keep alive while I'm being bursted so I can burst them/run away.

See edit to OP.

Edit: In response to your point, doesn't Heal serve that function just as well? And nobody takes heal & barrier...

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