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Udyr is a stupid, brainless champ that needs a rework

faure··8 votes·1,960 views

see title, out of all the mindless button mashing trash in this game I think Udyr takes the cake. Let's review!

  • unBEARable early game with zero counterplay, if he shows up in your jungle your only option is to run (unless you are playing warwick, which as far as I can tell is the only reliable jungler than can fight off an Udyr invade). Seriously, what is the counterplay? bear stance stun + tiger procs rip through everyone in an instant, even saucy brawlers like lee have to avoid getting close to this hairy fuck cause he shreds everyone so fast. god forbid you are playing against a psycho who has a point in phoenix early, pushing his 1v1 damage to reality-shattering levels after that first back
  • nonexistent end game, just a crappy stun spammer button mashing asshole that still does a fuckload of damage 1v1 but at least you can nuke him in team fights. goes 10-0 in like 12 minutes and ends up 11-300 because this champ is literally fucking useless once everyone catches up to his bullshit early game. Let me just dive into the fight with a my single target 1 second stun and tiny AOE, yeehaw ride and die
  • gameplay is literally just mashing buttons, I cannot think of a champ that is less interactive than Udyr, he is basically sona in the jungle but at least she has a skillshot. playing Udyr is just banging on the keyboard until your target melts. that we have a champ in 2019 that consists of 4 active abilities without even a point and click spell is honestly ridiculous.
  • to that end, Udyr is almost as awful to play as he is to play against. this champ requires less thought to play than trump puts into his tweets, dominates fucking everything for a hot minute and then might as well DC for the back half of the game.
  • I fucking hate Udyr and I hope he gets picked up by animal control and sent to one of those PETA kill shelters

the worst part is that Udyr is a thematically cool champ and if Riot turned him into a proper polymorph type champ with transforming visuals and actual gameplay he would be dope as hell, but right now this hairy fucker is in a terrible place. thank you for coming to my ted talk

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Quáx3 votes

from all the Udyr mains out there, please

Shut yo lean mean string bean charlie sheen limousine canteen trampoline serpentine antihistamine wolverine submarine unclean nectarine broken gene Halloween defective spleen smokescreen James dean putting green tiny peen anti-vaccine aquamarine Eugene extra green nicotine vaseline jellybean magazine protein lightning-McQueen vending machine what'chu mean Ocean Man by Ween Mr. Clean Listerine Walgreen headass the fuck up

BeastMoses1 votes

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from all the Udyr mains out there, please

Shut yo lean mean string bean charlie sheen limousine canteen trampoline serpentine antihistamine wolverine submarine unclean nectarine broken gene Halloween defective spleen smokescreen James dean putting green tiny peen anti-vaccine aquamarine Eugene extra green nicotine vaseline jellybean magazine protein lightning-McQueen vending machine what'chu mean Ocean Man by Ween Mr. Clean Listerine Walgreen headass the fuck up

LOL

faure1 votes

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from all the Udyr mains out there, please

Shut yo lean mean string bean charlie sheen limousine canteen trampoline serpentine antihistamine wolverine submarine unclean nectarine broken gene Halloween defective spleen smokescreen James dean putting green tiny peen anti-vaccine aquamarine Eugene extra green nicotine vaseline jellybean magazine protein lightning-McQueen vending machine what'chu mean Ocean Man by Ween Mr. Clean Listerine Walgreen headass the fuck up

I'll see myself out lol

Sir Saltarin1 votes

Thank you

A Friendless Boy2 votes

Seriously, what is the counterplay?

If he is a "brainless champ" the gameplay of which is "literally just smashing buttons" then you shouldn't have problem playing as him and carry the game. Who knows, you might be even grateful to the champ.

faure2 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Friendless Boy,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8RLxt6Wi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-04T17:04:16.891+0000)

If he is a "brainless champ" the gameplay of which is "literally just smashing buttons" then you shouldn't have problem playing as him and carry the game. Who knows, you might be even grateful to the champ.

I feel like you've missed my central thesis, which is that this brainless and oppressive early game champ transitions into being useless in the endgame with zero in between, but okay

A Friendless Boy1 votes

If you oppress the enemy early game then that's chance for you to win, isn't it? You can oppress enemies and team up and try to win as soon as possible before you become useless. If you cause them significant disadvantage they will be in a harder position to come back.

Quáx1 votes

You cannot 1v1 Udyr. No matter how hard you try or how hard you hit him. If you two are even he will always beat you. He heals, he has grievous wounds, and he runs FAST AS FUC BOIIIIII.

A Friendless Boy1 votes

That's why I was suggesting that he play as Udyr. Pick or ban him and problem is solved.

FluffyBunnies1 votes

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see title, out of all the mindless button mashing trash in this game I think Udyr takes the cake. Let's review!

  • unBEARable early game with zero counterplay, if he shows up in your jungle your only option is to run (unless you are playing warwick, which as far as I can tell is the only reliable jungler than can fight off an Udyr invade). Seriously, what is the counterplay? bear stance stun + tiger procs rip through everyone in an instant, even saucy brawlers like lee have to avoid getting close to this hairy fuck cause he shreds everyone so fast. god forbid you are playing against a psycho who has a point in phoenix early, pushing his 1v1 damage to reality-shattering levels after that first back
  • nonexistent end game, just a crappy stun spammer button mashing asshole that still does a fuckload of damage 1v1 but at least you can nuke him in team fights. goes 10-0 in like 12 minutes and ends up 11-300 because this champ is literally fucking useless once everyone catches up to his bullshit early game. Let me just dive into the fight with a my single target 1 second stun and tiny AOE, yeehaw ride and die
  • gameplay is literally just mashing buttons, I cannot think of a champ that is less interactive than Udyr, he is basically sona in the jungle but at least she has a skillshot. playing Udyr is just banging on the keyboard until your target melts. that we have a champ in 2019 that consists of 4 active abilities without even a point and click spell is honestly ridiculous.
  • to that end, Udyr is almost as awful to play as he is to play against. this champ requires less thought to play than trump puts into his tweets, dominates fucking everything for a hot minute and then might as well DC for the back half of the game.
  • I fucking hate Udyr and I hope he gets picked up by animal control and sent to one of those PETA kill shelters

the worst part is that Udyr is a thematically cool champ and if Riot turned him into a proper polymorph type champ with transforming visuals and actual gameplay he would be dope as hell, but right now this hairy fucker is in a terrible place. thank you for coming to my ted talk

Fiora beats him pretty well most of the game

Quáx1 votes

As a very proud Udyr main. All you have to do is run at them with bear stance and instead of hitting them. Just walk and don't auto attack them. They parry and guess what. You kill them because they're stupid.

BeastMoses1 votes

I don't know about a rework, but he definitely needs a animation update because holy sht his walking/running animation is the most triggering thing in the game

Hyperr1 votes

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I don't know about a rework, but he definitely needs a animation update because holy sht his walking/running animation is the most triggering thing in the game

Phoenix looks like a naruto had a child with a duck. I love it

IAmTheLego1 votes

To be fair, Udyr is excellent in 1v1s and 1v2s but terrible in 1v3, 1v4 and 1v5s because all his damage are single target focused and has no aoe.

Quáx1 votes

His R is AOE lol

IAmTheLego1 votes

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His R is AOE lol

Really? Whenever i watch Pants are Dragon he never uses R and always maxes QWE. I must be blind or something... What does it do?

Quáx1 votes

His R turns him into a Pheonix and when he activates it fire goes around him like a mini-sunfire cape. And every 3 autos he attacks in a cone and it does magic damage. However as a main source of damage its just hopelessly outclassed by tiger stance since his damage is more constant with tiger and you kinda have to wait to do damage every 3 autos with Pheonix.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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His R turns him into a Pheonix and when he activates it fire goes around him like a mini-sunfire cape. And every 3 autos he attacks in a cone and it does magic damage. However as a main source of damage its just hopelessly outclassed by tiger stance since his damage is more constant with tiger and you kinda have to wait to do damage every 3 autos with Pheonix.

So that's why it's rarely used or not used at all. If it's that useless that i didn't even know it's an AOE...that is 1 awkward champion. And Pants is abusing that champ.

Quáx1 votes

Yea. Udyr has the highest win rate of any jungler right now and as a main of him, it feels like Chris Hemsworth just invited me over for dinner. His R isn't useless though, it's just way worse than tiger because 1 offers explosive damage every few auto attacks and the other offers consistent damage every damage attack, not to mention the dot on Udyrs tiger stance hurts like a bitch.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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Yea. Udyr has the highest win rate of any jungler right now and as a main of him, it feels like Chris Hemsworth just invited me over for dinner. His R isn't useless though, it's just way worse than tiger because 1 offers explosive damage every few auto attacks and the other offers consistent damage every damage attack, not to mention the dot on Udyrs tiger stance hurts like a bitch.

Fair point. I wanted to try Udyr to see how he works and how strong he is.

5050BS1 votes

He is too much of a stat check Champ. ALL stat check champs need reworked so they are not stat checks.

Its stupid that there is ZERo out play with him. It is ether he kills you or he runs away and without 2+ stuns you cant catch him.

Quáx1 votes

Its called kiting.

faure2 votes

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Its called kiting.

cant really kite him when bear stance turns on the turbo every couple of seconds, complete with the ADC death stun if he decides to come right at you. which also, why is the turbo on bear stance? I don't really think of bears as being particularly speedy animals. more proof that rework is needed.

Quáx1 votes

BECAUSE WE GOTTA OPEN THE MOTHERFUCKIN GATZZZZ BOIIIIIIII

5050BS1 votes

There are few champs that can Kite him.

I call him ChickeDyr because all he does is Run away.

Him and Singed are REALLY bad designs for a competitive PvP game.

"Look at me Im running away!. You cant catch me Nener Nener!"

Quáx1 votes

Odds are, unless he's super low, the Udyr will most likely run at you. As an Udyr main unless I'm super low, I will run at you and you will be kissing my ass so hard you'll find out what I had for lunch.

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