What kind of team mate would your rather have?

Ramen226··1 votes·770 views

I am no way trying to sway the viewers opinion on this subject. The team mates I'm describing are in no way affiliated to me. All I want to do is raise a question that not many people have asked before.

In game I often see people arguing about the outcome of the match One player will comment, "you're so bad" and another will retaliate with "you're so toxic" and I was think that those aren't exactly opposites. And it got me thinking that, in a competitive sense, which person would I rather queue up with? So,

Would you rather?

a) Have a player on your team who isn't good and needs to be carried to win, but is pretty friendly and all around a nice guy. He is over extended without wards and dies to ganks, but doesn't rage at the jungler to come top. He loses lane and loses first turret, but says sorry and actually tries to improve and adapt mid match. He helps where he can when it comes to coordinating with the team, but never really gets much done. He will sometimes hold ultimate and lose teamfights because of it, but listens to the team when they offer critizism to his play.

or

b) Have a player on your team who is overall better than everyone else in the room, but he is narcissistic and will verbalize his frustrations. "So bad, " and, "What the fuck are you doing," are some of the things he says, but to a degree he's right about the situation at hand. He doesn't die to ganks unless 3 come top and dive him (and even then at least one dies with him), but he gets annoyed and throw out a rude comment to the jungler in chat. He commonly gets first blood turret/kill, and has good objective control, but will flame a team mate that is out of position, has bad objective control, or when the jungler misses smite. He will often swing unfavorable team fights in your favor and push leads, but when criticized will tell you to "fk off."

I'm just curious who most people would rather have. Personally I'd prefer someone who was somewhat toxic but could hold is own opposed to someone who always needed to be carried. But that's just my opinion and everyone will say different things according to their role and play style.

41 Comments

Hyper Stan6 votes

I Pick B and then i mute him

AwesomeGuyDj4 votes

I'd rather have the toxic who can carry. Then just follow these steps.

  1. Open the scoreboard.
  2. Position your mouse over the mute button.
  3. Mute them.
  4. Profit free win.
Brascus1 votes

Essentially

PhDs Nuts2 votes

You can mute player b.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

if i have to chose i rather have player A , i can care less about win and lose.. just want enjoyment of the time spent playing...

and we all have been that guy where we cant win or need to be carried.. maybe it was a bad day or game... maybe its a bad match up, a champ they arent 100% on or something... but much rather deal with that then player B

Paeon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-05-14T17:27:40.550+0000)

if i have to chose i rather have player A , i can care less about win and lose.. just want enjoyment of the time spent playing...

and we all have been that guy where we cant win or need to be carried.. maybe it was a bad day or game... maybe its a bad match up, a champ they arent 100% on or something... but much rather deal with that then player B

And from this post alone everyone in League learns MrFawknSunshine isn't competitive at all

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

hmm right... cuz i rather not deal with toxicity and an asshole in game over a chance that we might win... ?

you typically lose about as many games as you win... hence the mmr system , match making etc... to climb you need to have about a 58% win rate with streaks of wins and no streaks of loss...

sorry if i enjoy the game wanna play for entertainment and fun and dont care if a game is loss cuz someone isnt as good as someone else... all of you who think this is a competitive game and it means anything are wrong...

its only competitive and only means something on the professional level

Paeon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-05-14T17:37:10.870+0000)

hmm right... cuz i rather not deal with toxicity and an asshole in game over a chance that we might win... ?

you typically lose about as many games as you win... hence the mmr system , match making etc... to climb you need to have about a 58% win rate with streaks of wins and no streaks of loss...

sorry if i enjoy the game wanna play for entertainment and fun and dont care if a game is loss cuz someone isnt as good as someone else... all of you who think this is a competitive game and it means anything are wrong...

its only competitive and only means something on the professional level

I'm sorry you actually think that weak. In this game. Normals, Aram, bots, Ranked. Any game mode other than the practice sandbox has both a Winner and a Loser. Yes have fun, it's fun playing games, but goodness. Having a winner and loser means Competition. Anything with a winner and loser is competitive. Showing up IS NOT winning. Winning is beating the other team until the can't go on

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i didnt say i dont try to win... and that i dont try to beat my enemy and so on... but to have this attitude you rather deal with an asshole in game cuz to win over a guy who isnt an asshole is stupid

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

lets put the question like this

Player A: Imacutiepie Player B: Tyler 1

who do you choose then ?

Paeon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=00020000000000000001,timestamp=2017-05-14T17:47:50.950+0000)

lets put the question like this

Player A: Imacutiepie Player B: Tyler 1

who do you choose then ?

Doesn't matter to me in the slightest. A W is a W no matter the person it came from. Here is the thing you fuck up Tyler gonna shit on you. More than likely I would presume. You mess up with Qtie he is gonna more than likely go oh ok he messed up he shoulda done this. You get better quicker if someone is mad at you for making a mistake rather than somewhat ok at you for making a mistake.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

no you dont get better for someone be littleing you and being toxic for a mistake

you get better by trying to be better [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Paeon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-05-14T17:56:13.299+0000)

no you dont get better for someone be littleing you and being toxic for a mistake

you get better by trying to be better [zombie-brand-facepalm]

No. You get better by noticing your mistakes and others mistakes. Along with people calling out your mistakes. If you make the EXACT same mistake more than once you deserve to get the shaft. You should have learned. How about this. One game I thought to myself "imma Ward this lane bush botlane because watch Hecarim is gonna gank" guess what the mofo was already in there. What do you think happened? Hint"I died". Here is the difference I noticed that mistake. No one else said jack shit. I didn't make the mistake again. (Little hint) that simple

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

YOU NOTICE YOUR MISTAKES WITH OUT SOMEONE BEING AN ASSHOLE

if you cant notice your own mistakes with out someone being toxic then you are closeminded and short sighted

now get out of here

Paeon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=000200000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-14T18:04:46.597+0000)

YOU NOTICE YOUR MISTAKES WITH OUT SOMEONE BEING AN ASSHOLE

if you cant notice your own mistakes with out someone being toxic then you are closeminded and short sighted

now get out of here

Sounds good bro. The thing is you can't take harsh criticism. You consistently are messing up you consistently deserve to get the shaft it's that simple. I mess up. I deserve the same thing. You're focusing on the words that are coming from my mouth/keyboard rather than what I am actually trying to do. You gotta learn and you learn NOW not after the game. You learn IN GAME. I deserve to be flamed on numerous occasions I take that shit is stride. People see you messed up LISTEN maybe you don't think it's right but take it into your mind for the next time you don't have that gray screen

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

no one needs to deal with verbal abuse or toxicity over this game...

that just makes people go on tilt, makes more toxicity and so on its a vicious cycle and due to this is why when you do try to kindly give advice to a player who made a mistake its taken with such hostility but a lot people dont react to harsh "encouragement" as you suggest , alot of people shut down cuz of that. but if people stop this cycle of toxicity then the community improves overall and then people would be more open to criticism about their play and mistakes if its brought to them in the right way...

seriously use your brain here man

Paeon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=00020000000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-14T18:16:29.076+0000)

no one needs to deal with verbal abuse or toxicity over this game...

that just makes people go on tilt, makes more toxicity and so on its a vicious cycle and due to this is why when you do try to kindly give advice to a player who made a mistake its taken with such hostility but a lot people dont react to harsh "encouragement" as you suggest , alot of people shut down cuz of that. but if people stop this cycle of toxicity then the community improves overall and then people would be more open to criticism about their play and mistakes if its brought to them in the right way...

seriously use your brain here man

Oh I am using my brain, stop using your emotions so damn much. Everything isn't sunshine and roses, things mess up. People will talk back to you and down to you for making a mistake. That's not what I want. I am using the fuck wtf the really. For this reason and this reason alone. People do not want to look stupid at all they don't want to look inferior they want to be amazing. The thing is no one is perfect. Getting loud getting angry making an example pushes more and more to get the best out. Maybe I explain it horrifically wrong or use the wrong words. But what I am getting at is I KNOW for a fact that every single person is capable of tremendous things as long as they put their mind to it and take harsh crit for constant mistakes the less mistakes the better the game

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

no it dont... being angry and mad just leads to rash irrational decisions

Paeon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-14T18:27:27.793+0000)

no it dont... being angry and mad just leads to rash irrational decisions

Did you just read the post or did it go over the top of your head? Being angry and mad doesn't lead to rash irrational decisions. Learn your emotions then talk. Any emotion can be used for a good effect or a bad effect. You can use anger to get back at someone or you could use anger to idk BETTER YOURSELF. You could use your happiness to continuously give money to others around you. Or happiness could be in hoarding as much money as possible and giving it to no one. I think that's pretty simple of an explanation right their

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

then why do people make grave mistakes in life when angry and kill someone out of rage?

that is an rash and irrational decision isnt it ?

Ralanr3 votes

No. When someone is mad at you for making a mistake and they keep reminding you, you don't get better quicker. You get angry and end up making more mistakes because you're rushing to try and prove them wrong.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i know you hate to agree with me but you have no choice here lol

Ralanr1 votes

I disagree with you on things like what tanks are. If I have said I hate to agree with you in the past, it's probably about those subjects.

Other than that I don't really think negatively of you.

Paeon2 votes

{quoted}

No. When someone is mad at you for making a mistake and they keep reminding you, you don't get better quicker. You get angry and end up making more mistakes because you're rushing to try and prove them wrong.

Idk what's up in your mind then dude. Messing up=no good. We all seem to understand that. What I don't think you understand is where I am coming from. You are not allowed to make the same mistake again and again and not learn from it. If you continuously try and invade but doing so gets you killed. And you keep doing it. Really? LEARN NOW. I am saying what the fuck and how and really? You're focusing on the words I am saying you think they are mean are hurtful. You're not focusing on the task at hand

Ralanr2 votes

Thing is, people are more likely to take things as hurtful than helpful when they are presented along the lines of "Wtf you idiot" or something similar.

Yes I died. I don't need you to tell me I died. I know I died telling me only makes me dwell on the fact in a negative way.

I get angry, I start making more poor judgements and maybe even go out of my way to try and get you to take it all back by doing something awesome.

Note: this isn't what I do but I'm providing an example.

Some people don't really take that kind of enforcement well. They work better when they have someone trust them or just acknowledge good play over bad.

I don't perform better when someone mocks me. I get angry and want to shut that person up. It'd be much better to focus my attention on the game, but now I'm focused on my failure and the guy who reminds me.

There is a reason people are told to mute assholes.

Paeon1 votes

{quoted}

Thing is, people are more likely to take things as hurtful than helpful when they are presented along the lines of "Wtf you idiot" or something similar.

Yes I died. I don't need you to tell me I died. I know I died telling me only makes me dwell on the fact in a negative way.

I get angry, I start making more poor judgements and maybe even go out of my way to try and get you to take it all back by doing something awesome.

Note: this isn't what I do but I'm providing an example.

Some people don't really take that kind of enforcement well. They work better when they have someone trust them or just acknowledge good play over bad.

I don't perform better when someone mocks me. I get angry and want to shut that person up. It'd be much better to focus my attention on the game, but now I'm focused on my failure and the guy who reminds me.

**There is a reason people are told to mute assholes

Yes, I understand this, but has no one ever understood use Anger to your advantage. You're angry at me, show me I AM WRONG and YOU ARE RIGHT. Come right back at me for making a mistake as well. Angry people make more mistakes because it's a hard emotion to take control of

Ralanr1 votes

{quoted}

Yes, I understand this, but has no one ever understood use Anger to your advantage. You're angry at me, show me I AM WRONG and YOU ARE RIGHT. Come right back at me for making a mistake as well. Angry people make more mistakes because it's a hard emotion to take control of

OK! dies while trying to invade the jungle again.

See the problem?

And why should I attack you for attacking me? Why the hell should you attack your teammates?

To quote a video on league, "I'm already fighting five opponents, I don't need four more."

You should never make your teammates angry at you. At least not going out of your way to present yourself as someone who will thrash out at your teammates mistakes.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

but your decision making while angry is far less when you are cool calm and collected

its science brah ...

how much stupid shit do you do or say when you pissed off in a situation as compared if you were cool calm and collected?

Ralanr1 votes

Why can't we have a middle ground?

PhDs Nuts1 votes

{quoted}

Why can't we have a middle ground?

Because everyone would vote to have imaqtpie on their team.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

and that would be awesome that guy cracks me up... and considering he can play at highest level means he will be nice, most likely carry and have a fun game if we lose

so whats the issue ?

PhDs Nuts1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-14T17:28:32.347+0000)

and that would be awesome that guy cracks me up... and considering he can play at highest level means he will be nice, most likely carry and have a fun game if we lose

so whats the issue ?

Having a good player that's not toxic on the poll wouldn't be interesting, lol. My point is that everyone would obviously choose that guy.

Paeon1 votes

Player B all day long. Anyone that wants player A just asks to lose and honestly doesn't care about the game other than "ohhhhhhh pretty colors"

Ben Sharpio1 votes

" BUT ATTITUDE WINS GAMES, NOT SKILL D: "

Paeon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Corsair Sion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8N2Jy9wO,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-05-14T17:37:02.878+0000)

" BUT ATTITUDE WINS GAMES, NOT SKILL D: "

Attitude does win games.

TimX24968B1 votes

carrying wins games. attitude wins honor (and we all know how that goes)

GrievousFetus1 votes

/mute all exists.

I don't understand how anyone can complain about toxicity whatsoever so long as you can mute people, unless it's the direct gameplay griefing form of toxicity like Tahm spitting you out under enemy tower or a teammate running it down mid.

Solidarius1 votes

id choose player A

reason being:

people have bad days or bad matchup and everyone starts to judge them .. the fact that the person "adapted" mid match is more than enough for me I dont care if your 0-10 if your honestly trying, like for real trying I wont say a single word and will try and help even if the rest of the team is trash talking you.

I am not an "angel" though... the thing is

I cant stand narcissistic players anymore been playing vid games 2 long and I guess geting older does that, honestly there has been game that that player B has made me want to lose just to piss him off.

I wont lie I have been "carried" before and been player A, then again I have been player B too. But I try do my best NOT to be him.

still id take player A over B any day of the week on my team.

Big Lincoln1 votes

the one that helps me win.

Ahristocats1 votes

this question is easy to answer to

player A will be more willing to listen to my call than player B and this is all i need to win because i'm extremely good at watching the entire game and knowing what to do

TimX24968B1 votes

one you can mute. you can't block deaths of a feeder (unless you're Shen or Zilean )

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