New (returning New) Champ Select

Xonra··3 votes·567 views

Is there any way you can just...slide us some ip under the table for being picked for support, Riot? I have no problem...necessarily, with playing support, but I'm tired of ONLY playing support with this new champ select since no one else wants to.

I put top pref, support second. I get support.

I put support pref, top second, support.

Mid pref, support second, support.

Top then fill. Guess what, support.

<_< Really? I can't play anything else if I put support on there?

10 Comments

Grizzley1171 votes

Why not put top as your primary, then mid as your secondary? Then there is no possible way to get support. Support has always been the least popular choice, so don't be too suprised when you get support as fill.

Xonra1 votes

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Why not put top as your primary, then mid as your secondary? Then there is no possible way to get support. Support has always been the least popular choice, so don't be too suprised when you get support as fill.

I did, but I just sat there in queue for about 10 minutes waiting. I didn't not try, I just didn't want to wait 15 minutes for a game. As much as I'm tired of playing support, I'd rather just do it and get it over with than sit in queue forever cause top and mid are the two most wanted.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

Really, so you want Riot to bribe you to play a role you should already know how to play? Interesting concept, but I'm certain they won't do that. I certainly wouldn't in my lifetime.

Xonra1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Milodic Mellodi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=85VJjAhi,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-26T03:23:26.521+0000)

Really, so you want Riot to bribe you to play a role you should already know how to play? Interesting concept, but I'm certain they won't do that. I certainly wouldn't in my lifetime.

No I just don't want to play literally support every game or sit in queue forever. It was more of a joke, I don't expect them to actually give me IP.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

Then if you don't like it so much, why not just not pick Support? If you pick Support, either primary or secondary, you should be prepared to play Support. The overwhelming fact of Probability that no matter what people will be placed based on what chances there are. In this case, there's always a 20% chance (maybe give or take a few percent, depending on priority of a certain role by its randomizing generator) you'll end up getting your role. No "ifs, ands or buts" about it, unless Riot actually goes and says something about the probability being biased. Yes, it does end up being 50% because you only have two roles you can play, but it's still an unbiased probability unless stated otherwise. So yes, in my honest opinion you have an unbiased probability to be chosen in a certain role. It just so happens that the teams you get placed on need a Support (because they already have your other role chosen by someone else).

Xonra2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Milodic Mellodi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=85VJjAhi,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-01-26T03:59:48.575+0000)

Then if you don't like it so much, why not just not pick Support? If you pick Support, either primary or secondary, you should be prepared to play Support. The overwhelming fact of Probability that no matter what people will be placed based on what chances there are. In this case, there's always a 20% chance (maybe give or take a few percent, depending on priority of a certain role by its randomizing generator) you'll end up getting your role. No "ifs, ands or buts" about it, unless Riot actually goes and says something about the probability being biased. Yes, it does end up being 50% because you only have two roles you can play, but it's still an unbiased probability unless stated otherwise. So yes, in my honest opinion you have an unbiased probability to be chosen in a certain role. It just so happens that the teams you get placed on need a Support (because they already have your other role chosen by someone else).

Support is my secondary, so I don't hate playing it, I just don't like that it gives it to me ONLY and never my primary (top). If I go top/mid I got neither cause I sat waiting, and I don't jungle (see: I'm bad at it), so fill is dangerous as jungle isn't popular either.

I really don't hate support, I just don't want to play it every single game or have to wait an extra 10 minutes.

Also it is a lot more than a 20% chance for support, as it is the least wanted role, which means you are going to be much more likely to be placed in it. Sure there are 5 roles, but 20% chance isn't accurate given the literal probability. I get the reason, but it isn't any less frustrating.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

Well, if it's any consolation (probably not), I normally get ADC when I pick ADC/Supp. Even if it's something that doesn't exactly follow Rules of Probability to the nth degree...well, Rito'll fix it. They always do. Just have faith in them, it is their game after all.

Xonra2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Milodic Mellodi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=85VJjAhi,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-26T05:38:16.988+0000)

Well, if it's any consolation (probably not), I normally get ADC when I pick ADC/Supp. Even if it's something that doesn't exactly follow Rules of Probability to the nth degree...well, Rito'll fix it. They always do. Just have faith in them, it is their game after all.

Yeah I'm likely being impatient and my frustration from the first go around (and pbe testing) I think is just carrying over. I have no doubt (or I'm holding out hope) it will get fixed in time.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] It'll all the worth it in the end when Riot makes everything perfect :) Hope to see you on the Rift, Xonra, I enjoyed talking with you. Sorry I came on as sarcastic in the beginning, you seem cool enough.

Xonra2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Milodic Mellodi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=85VJjAhi,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-26T08:25:05.600+0000)

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] It'll all the worth it in the end when Riot makes everything perfect :) Hope to see you on the Rift, Xonra, I enjoyed talking with you. Sorry I came on as sarcastic in the beginning, you seem cool enough.

Ha no worries. I get why given my post. I was a mix of being a bit sarcastic and salty myself so it's all good, man.

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