Current PBE changes will made laning phase unplayble for a lot of champions.

Dakeudharma··2 votes·1,751 views

So in one patch we have.

  1. Remove of bone plating. (Tanks toplane would be harder to play, talon will again rule midlane with almost 100% winrate in good hands)
  2. Change to rune potions. (This will affect sustain a lot, certain champions will be unplayable, not to mention champions was balanced arround it and now they don't receive some buff, like mana regen or health regen.)
  3. Celerity change to movement speed will slightly reduce enchanters ability to effectively trade (like tank supports is not meta anyway and I don't even speak about enchanters mid, they are non-existent).
  4. You nerf chrysalis. Rune that enchanters take to not be instakilled by leona or thresh on lvl 2. That you take to be not instakilled against talon at lvl 2. And I am pretty sure it has same use in toplane, but I am not playing there much so can't write exact example here.
  5. Fleetwork nerf is basically Kassadin nerf. (But do you know on balance team, why he needs this rune ? He is now unplayable against lucian mid, but with this nerf he will be unplayable against every ad mid.)

And for all of this nerfs we have 5mr or 5 armor ?

Btw Ivern will be again unplayable too. You buffed him intentionally before this, so he can be played on patch and then again totally not worth ?

Ironically you are saying: Laning Phase is improved and slightly longer. Improved for who ?

24 Comments

Hi lm Zoe2 votes

Me before reading: Oh sure fuck it wont do anything to my mid laners Me after reading: p-p what is Rito doing??????

Pika Fox2 votes

The potion changes change nothing. The CD is the duration of the potion. What it does do is make it so you cant take the new rune that gives you 50% of the potion immediately and spam pots for instant health.

Dakeudharma1 votes

Passive: Potions, biscuits and elixirs last 20% longer.

is no longer there.

Pika Fox5 votes

Need to be more specific when you say potion changes. Thats not a potion change, thats a rune change.

Dakeudharma1 votes

yeah mb.

Fízz v22 votes

Thats kinda what happens in preseason tho, there are big changes, then champs get balanced around new systems

Dakeudharma1 votes

Big changes are dark harvest, better turrets and baron changes. How does they affect early laning trades ?

Fízz v22 votes

Did they say they want to change early trades? All I know is that laning phase is supposed to be longer, which is why towers are harder to kill

Dakeudharma1 votes

Yeah but why then they nerf sustain and early resists ? That's going to be so much fun having longer laning phase for kassadin against talon after this changes. So funny I already see the perfect game-playing Kassadin at 0/5 simply because he has no option after this changes. And since the laning phase "will be longer" who knows maybe talon will have first utrret when he will be 10/0 xd.

JeaneGreene2 votes

Rip Ivern

iiGazeii2 votes

A lot of assassins in the midlane also took Bone Plating and Chrysalis for added tankiness. Champs like Talon and Akali will be squishier as well after this patch, easier to chunk and punish for getting aggressive.

I agree, the change to Time Warp Tonic will affect a lot of champions that took it, like Illaoi, Aurelion Sol, and Zoe, but the synergy between it, Corrupting Potion start, and The Dark Seal was insane.

Enchanters will be able to take the new Shield Bash rune for better trades, gaining armor/MR and an empowered auto with their shields.

I also think you're ignoring the changes to towers, more specifically, the extra gold you can get for laning. Most assassins have poor waveclear compared to a midlane mage, and instead look to roam for kills after farming a few from their laner. A midlane mage will be able to shove the wave in and get a good chunk of gold when the assassin leaves, comparable to getting a kill. Assassins will be forced to be in lane with their opponent longer, giving the mage more time to poke and outfarm them. They won't be able to get a few quick kills, shove down the tower early, and accelerate the game into the midgame before the enemy has a chance to scale.

Dakeudharma1 votes

I would agree if the mage's mana regen was not nerfed in half season. Now it is arguable who has better clear early. One tiamat on ad and you have at least same clear. Until mages have first item completed. /also depends on matchup ofc. /

boricCentaur11 votes

Bone plating being removed does nothing for talon like he is not played for kills he is played since he can roam very easily and snowball off that and top tanks will be happy that bone plating is gone like you do know that most tops take bone plating not just tanks right and bone plating stop tanks from doing damage more then a driver or a juggernaut since a lot of tanks they have a combo and thats it. And wtf is this about Ivern like can someone explain this to me since I do not think the rune changes will hurt him and the shield bash rune will help him but maybe im dumb or missing somthing.

Dakeudharma1 votes

He profits from movement speed. More movement speed better clear. In one patch nerf to celerity, he can't even us it now. And also potion rune change. It's like rito will remove 20 ad from warrior jungle item /unnoticed/. Also chrysalis hurt him a lot, that's -1 camp.

boricCentaur11 votes

ok I get it now thank you.

Buff Riven Plz1 votes

Boneplating and chrysalis are horrible considering every champ takes them. Its time those runes go. Hopefully more changes happen im 100% sick of this meta.

Dakeudharma1 votes

Horrible is that support players need to take bone plating instead of font of life, bcs it has more winrate. Not the bone-plating itself. Same with split-pushers demolish is uber-useless rune unless you push 24/7.

Buff Riven Plz1 votes

it makes tanks broken happy its being removed. Supports still have a ton of defenses.

Dakeudharma1 votes

I dunno I think that with his nerfs you can simply hit lvl 2 on leona and do the leona thing and snowball game. I hope it will be tested, so you can survive with at least one rune setup with enchanters.

Buff Riven Plz1 votes

im sure it will be fine i dont even play botlane but i dont think its that bad.

Dakeudharma1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GippWP9AQ8Y without boneplate literally evb could do this with Leona. Like on this video you see.

Buff Riven Plz1 votes

didnt even watch this video dont care enough. Anyway boneplating is a broken rune and its good its being removed.

Dakeudharma1 votes

good s we can get isntakilled on bot because you don't care. l2p.

Buff Riven Plz1 votes

Lol relax dude boneplating was broken glad it’s being removed.

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