Nerf Yi (really)

Dakeudharma··23 votes·12,140 views

I still remember experts here pointing out Yi is only playble in Plat and low ELO. Well LCK showed that Dopa words about that taric-yi is unbeatable is truth. In that game enemy team had no chance to win from start. Taric and Yi even missplayed multiple times and it's still two man fiesta.

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Kídá15 votes

Played once against Taric + MasterYi . I knew they were strong so I asked for help from the jungler and we got an early kill on MasterYi , then I proceeded to have the lane shoved in constantly to either make him loose CS or force him to come to lane. At the end of the day it still was not enough and we proceeded to ger rekt. Been banning him ever since.

Malix Farwin1 votes

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Played once against Taric + MasterYi . I knew they were strong so I asked for help from the jungler and we got an early kill on MasterYi , then I proceeded to have the lane shoved in constantly to either make him loose CS or force him to come to lane. At the end of the day it still was not enough and we proceeded to ger rekt. Been banning him ever since.

Understandable to ban him, i do not ban him but instead opt to ban Lux(just because of her insane pick rate in my elo) however, if i ever say yi/taric on the enemy team i dodge. The combo is not picked often enough to ban but certainly dodge worthy.

Noor Sakata10 votes

Please no , don't talk , please , they will nerf Taric instead ... you know how their brains work

Dakeudharma1 votes

I don't think so they will probably don't ban either of them. I think shutdown gold need to be reverted and mages need to spam mana on clear like before and ad players need item that help them clear mid asap (in a cost of that they have less power in fights, they would rush it only in against this type of strategy)

TeemoTookMyBike2 votes

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Please no , don't talk , please , they will nerf Taric instead ... you know how their brains work

lol more like they will nerf riven

AscendingHope1 votes

No they will rework ryze again

Noor Sakata1 votes

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lol more like they will nerf riven

Man .. I was trolling actually that time BUT THEY ACTUALLY NERFED TARIC

BestPudgeNA7 votes

I was told Yi was a "newb bronze stomp champ" and isn't actually good. Yi was played in LCK Therefore according to my flawless logic LCK=Bronze.

Flavi Kang5 votes

Ah, boards at its finest. Lets nerf a champion because hes viable only through a cheese strat.

I can put down a list of mid and jungle picks that will shit on the strat, but I don't have the patience.

Oh look, Darius/Yasuo/Nocturne are also pick-ban status in LCK, and they are viable even without a taric babysitter.

RiTo nErF thEsE OP ChamPioNs I cAnT gEt oUt oF D5!!!!!

Pika Fox4 votes

Asking for yi nerfs in 2018. The new meme. Seriously, really easy to counter, and your jungler gets free map dominance. 2 free lanes.

Reformedfindlay5 votes

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Asking for yi nerfs in 2018. The new meme. Seriously, really easy to counter, and your jungler gets free map dominance. 2 free lanes.

So easy to counter that korean pros in the LCK are banning him.

Pika Fox3 votes

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So easy to counter that korean pros in the LCK are banning him.

Exceptionally easy to counter. Mid plays safe, your jungle gets free ganks, mid gets free farm, you auto win bot and top due to jungle pressure. Enemy mid is underfed, all lanes lost, all that has gold is Yi. Free win.

Nhifu1 votes

Because they avoid tank meta :>

rtbf484192824 votes

Master yi is overpowered, why? Maybe not overpowered, but outdated.

Master yi is an old champion along with Garen, warwick, ashe, etc. Guess what happened. They all got reworked, and especially warwick completely changed its identity because of his "toxic, unhealthy and abusive" gameplay after a moment of severe nerf (aka the biggest direct nerf known in league of legends history, literally).

Master yi is an outdated champion. He does not fit in the modern gameplay.

They thought warwick was OP when ashe could 1v1 him all day and shit on him. There was nothing warwick could do against ashe. Warwick running away? Keep chasing him and auto him with that slow. Warwick following you? Just keep running away until he turns back, which is when you'll start to auto him again. Warwick ults you? Qss (or ability block item) and ult him right back and position yourself. As long as you're above 50% health, what's warwick gonna do? Absolutely nothing.

There were a bunch of braindead kids playing with insane mobility champions who were stupid enough to duel warwick for a minute, mid to late game, and complains about how warwick heals too much when warwick ends up outdueling them. Jesus Christ. Lee sin couldn't outduel warwick 30 min into the game. Nerf warwick. Heal op gg.

Warwick's dueling power wasn't even the op part of him. And they blamed everything on the feral flare. If anything warwick's most useful kit was his e, which gives movespeed boost as well as the vision of low health enemy champs. If you see how the modern game is played, people spend crap ton of time chasing down and looking for low health enemy champs only to get burst down or juked. Well that wouldn't' have worked when warwick had the e. It might have hurt the gameplay where people who play assassins who only knows how to abuse that kind of psychological stuff to get to high elo, but it didn't hurt the gameplay overall, imo.

So, imo, warwick was op in low elo, solo queue where people didn't know how to ward, have no clue of enemy presence on the map and lacks coordination that they chase down low health enemy champs for eternity.

But with massive w nerf, the immobile warwick became a complete garbage. His dueling power was so incredibly bad that he had trouble during 1v1 with amumu. (if an immobile champ has no dueling power, what makes of him?)His already slow clear speed was massively slowed down even further. Made him unplayable. Turned him into a troll pick. I'm not even sure what was riot's thinking in doing that? Xin and olaf has gap closer or ranged attack. Warwick has none but his ult, which was also nerfed and either way had 1min> cd. Literally, the enemy champ could auto warwick once, let him pop his w, walk away for a couple of seconds, and comeback and dash to him and destroy the shit out of him. Who in the world thought that was the balance?

Salvor Hardın3 votes

Played once against Taric +MasterYi . I pick Rammus, they hated me.

Dakeudharma2 votes

Good win at least 4 games of 10 against it and your words may have value. Winning over random ppl who don't know how to play it don't prove the strategy is bad. (maybe, maybe it was really your strategy, that helped you win, but most likely it was their mistakes that helped you win)

Salvor Hardın2 votes

Yes, absolutely, it was a premade of 4. I just wanted to remind that Rammus is a great pick against master Yi. Maybe if the Yi is good can buy item 3139, but people rarely knows how to play agains Rammus. https://i.imgur.com/UryMm4a.png?nodirect

Reformedfindlay3 votes

YI BANNED IN LCK LOL

Tahngarthor3 votes

There are other champions you can do stuff like this with. Yi is probably the easiest but pretty much any assassin or other snowbally champ will work.

It works, but its a very selfish strategy, if your top/bots can't handle not getting many ganks they're going to have a bad time. Since Yi or whoever the jg is is going to be getting a lot of his farm from mid lane, you can take advantage of his lack of presence in the other lanes and push hard when the pair is not in lane.

And as others have noted, there are some pretty clear counters out there.

apollö3 votes

Honestly just remove Yi from the game completely. No one will miss him. Yi mains will finally have to play the game without smashing Q. It'll be better for everyone.

hi ìm groot2 votes

Those strats have shit to do with the state of yi in normal play. Its because the jg is so little gold/exp right now combined with the snowballyness of games, and the way support items work. All those things come together to make that shit broken, its just like the yi kayle strat last season before yi was supposidly "busted"

Dakeudharma3 votes

Yi kayle was just boosting strategy, not the best one in game. You could outplay it, in these days yi were not that strong. But if you watch other games yi is permaban now.

Nhifu1 votes

Kayle is better now though, press the attack and on top of the rageblade meta.

Nea1042 votes

Yi is the problem by himself. Before there was the combo with Kayle, now this one. Just a bad concept, never fixed because... We know.

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

Now the excuse is, “you can counter it”

It used to be, it doesn’t work in high elo”

The reality is, it work. It works mostly because the damage is so high right now that Yi can kill multiple champions before agarics ult expires

It’s extremely easy to perform, especially against comp who don’t have the required CC. Trying doing something with a Karthus, Vel, zig, various ADCs..

This strategy wouldn’t work if damage throughout the game is not out of control. Right now it is, so this strategy is viable

Malak2 votes

Yi is a feast or famine champion so he is always used anytime people find a way to circumvent his issues. Supports that give him a few seconds of invulnerability to a high damage class cannon + extra gold to kickstart him

yea of course yi will seem op in those scenarios

CppL2 votes

"Just cc him"

Thefrostyviking1 votes

People argue that champs like yi/vayne/current aatrox arent OP, i argue that they are infact really damn strong but the only reason they havent gone to the winrate chart top is because their direct counters are strong.

But as MVP showed......when someone like yi isnt hard countered the enemy team might as well give up, even if you kite him back he only needs to catch 2 people and several objectives will go down.

Or in all probability he wont just catch two if fed and he will just kill everyone around.

Yi not OP.....tell that to Yondu [sg-miss-fortune]

VelvetCrotch1 votes

just rework him and remove this untargetable alpha-noob-dash

Slice n Dice em1 votes

Well LCK showed that Dopa words about that taric-yi is unbeatable is truth.

Nice, how you manipulate Dopa's words to raise your propaganda. Btw, why does Yi have 49.04% WR with 9.60% PR, if he is such a free win?

What you are complaining about is a funnel comp, alot of champions can and do abuse it. And yes there is counter play, enemy team gets no jungler, you either gank 3 man top or 4 man bot after clearing mid.

Just lost a game with a trash smite nunu/karthus funnel comp on my team. I just wish they make solo Q solo and not duoQ.

Dakeudharma1 votes

Yi have 100% pick/ban rate and 100% winrate in LCK. Dopa said it in another video. 49% Because ppl don't know how to play it still.

Slice n Dice em1 votes

Yi have 100% pick/ban rate and 100% winrate in LCK.

From where are you bringing up those stats? Here you go picked 12 times banned 23 times in the history of fkin lol. Not just this season whole fkin history from season 1 to season 8. Is fkin Yi not a champion of lol, is he not fkin even allowed to be in pro scene? Ffs man if you hate a champion so much, then good, say it like it is but don't around bsing with 100% pick-banrate

Well according to that if Yi is played 12 times in a league then I want rest of the champions which are picked/banned up most then him in pro scene to be completely nerfed. Since they obviously have higher pick and ban rate then him..... Just lol

Dopa said it in another video.

Another video? Ok let me explain it to you that way. I presented this video which is his latest opinion, which has a thought into the whole thing. Imagine if you play against some very bs strat for the first time and lose game pretty hard you would obviously say man that thing is broken. But after some time when you give that thing a thought you would either find a counter play or you would know the answer. This is exactly what happened to him, and no in no fkin games he was banning Yi continuously like the redditors claimed. Here you go his account and tell me in how many games he is continuously banning or facing Yi

49% Because ppl don't know how to play it still.

What does that even mean? what fkin amazing insec mechanic you need for Yi? He is a simple champion with a simple kit, sure you need map awareness and jungle knowledge but that is required for every jungle champion. He is losing because some people accidentally or knowingly counter compose team against him. And that's the bottom line, Yi has weaknesses like all the champions if some one is losing to him, then instead of crying here on boards just git gud, like rest of the 51% people who win-against him.

Down-vote me all you want but the truth stings and hurts.

Ignika D1 votes

does lcs player need to cc master yi while he is in alpha 70% of the time removing half your hp in the meanwhile

Mokiller51 votes

And yet SKT tried out the same strategy and LOST! so your point that taric + yi is unbeatable is not valid as it can be beaten.

Aurelion Suave1 votes

"The Riot Balance Team hears the community's cry for help, and we have answered with a solution!" nerfs Taric

Jesus is Savior1 votes

Master Yi hard-counters Nunu (cannot be slowed). What did you actually expect to happen in that game?

Worldead21 votes

why nerf yi and buff jax and udyr MasterYi plz riot ihave 6years play this is game plz buff yi 3 nerf in 1seson

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