Riot, Can you read about my opinion on Nocturne?

4NoxiousHours··5 votes·688 views

Nocturne is rarely ever seen in League, that's a fact. Maybe in one certain division you see him a little more often but the rest not so much at all. I feel as if this champion is about " You only have one shit, if you miss you either die or get nothing in return while sacrificing a lot of your HP and Mana"

Nocturne is super slow early - mid game, I'd have to rely on movement speed runes, boots, and a successful Q shot if I wanna catch up to the enemy or catch up to make my E successful.

Nocturne's ult cool down is beyond unfair. At level 6 it's cool down duration is 150, that's INSANE. Nocturne has to rely so much on his ult to make plays, kills, and support. If you compare him to Pantheon, they both have the same cool down duration but the difference is, Pantheon has a point and click Q & STUNNNNNN. At least for Pantheon, if his ult fails, he can still catch the enemy with his stun.

Nocturne's E is hard to achieve because we now have champions with a lot of utility and mobility. How can his channel fully channel if the enemy can be faster than him? Not only that, his channel duration is 2 seconds while the flee effect is around 1 second. How is that fair?

Nocturne's W has a really good passive but the duration of how long his shield can last for dodging ONE spell is bad. People can now predict Nocturne because it's obvious for him. Say for example Nocturne used his W against Sion's ult, that's ok because Sion has his Q and E to catch and kill Nocturne.

Lastly his Q. I like how when you say on his Q, your damage is increased but... what happens when you miss? Skill shots aren't always easy to land. It would make sense for LeBlanc because her kit is just cancer but Nocturne's kit isn't cancer at all, in fact, Nocturne relies so much on items over his skills to survive.

Lastly, Nocturne overall is like a Talon jungle except Talon could do a better ganking job than Nocturne. Talon and Nocturne are alike in ways where they both dive into the enemy group and die. People say Nocturne is the type of champion that wasn't ment for ulting into a group fight but in most cases there is bound to be a group fight and the enemy will expect Nocturne to go for the weakest link. So as he ults they can just pop him.

Like I said, Nocturne is that kind of champion where if you fail one skill, you have failed everything and have nothing else to do but watch the enemy escape from your grasp. He has no escape, no sustain, and he relies too much on items over his skills to do work.

So Riot, I ask you, what can you do for Nocturne and what do you think Nocturne is like? because Nocturne is like the "cool" champion but a horrible sustain and kit.

6 Comments

DrNova2 votes

I haven't played much noc, but I've played enough to know his ult deserves that CD.

Very long range, targeted instantish dash, which also removes vision for all enemy champs.

Its a very powerful ult, regardless of the state of the rest of the champ.

czo0p1 votes

I agree i think his ult is fine and they gave it improved range. The rest of his kit needs some tweaking.

Invictus Wolf2 votes

The dash range is actually terrible at level 1, his ult is far less effective then rengar's ultimate, and it warns the enemy team the moment he casts that he is engaging on them.

4NoxiousHours1 votes

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The dash range is actually terrible at level 1, his ult is far less effective then rengar's ultimate, and it warns the enemy team the moment he casts that he is engaging on them.

Very True, just like with pantheon as well.

czo0p2 votes

Nocturne has gotten some love but I agree they can definitely throw him some more in Season 6 with the ever changing meta.

I know Im not Riot but here are some ideas ( not intending he needs all of these) :

  1. He needs an aoe fear implemented into his kit somehow.

  2. For his Shroud of Darkness, I think he needs a better reward for blocking a spell than a simple attack speed boost

  3. Like Quinn's blind mechanic. He needs something like this! Would fit in perfectly with his thematic of fear, paranoia, darkness!

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Nocturne is one of the few assassins I like to play, because he doesn't rely on just mashing all the buttons to kill/escape. I agree he needs buffs though.

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