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Frozen Heart would be more appealing if it provided health.

SzGamer227·10/12/2017, 4:42:23 PM·2 votes·525 views

If we traded some of Frozen Heart's stats for health to put it in line with other tank's itemization, it could easily become a niche counterpart to Randuin's Omen and Thornmail for tanks who want to protect their team and not just themselves.

The item that is currently the closest to Frozen Heart functionally is Abyssal Mask, which provides health, mana, magic resist, and a debuff aura that strengthens allies by debuffing nearby enemies. If we shape Frozen Heart up to be an armor counterpart to Abyssal Mask, we get something that looks like this:

Frozen Heart +350 health +50 armor +300 mana +10% CDR UNIQUE Aura: Reduces attack speed of nearby enemies. UNIQUE Passive - Eternity: Damage taken from champions is gained as mana. Spending mana restores health. +

I think it would be cool to have an armor counterpart to Abyssal Mask with the Eternity passive to turn tanks durability into mana sustain. It would still be a niche item, but more universally appealing, and unless Riot changes its passive so that it no longer has to compete with other Warden's Mail upgrades, this is about the best we can hope for.

Thoughts?

8 Comments

ProfDrDeath10/12/2017, 4:52:56 PM1 votes

No. Not all Armor items for tanks need to provide Armor and Health at the same time. It is bad enough that all MR items do.

Selegun10/12/2017, 5:07:47 PM1 votes

Would love to see it be a bit more expensive and build out of tear honestly.

Nanuk Pihoqahiak10/12/2017, 5:17:30 PM1 votes

Should rework it to give some kind of stacking movement speed decrease, up to a cap. Maybe attack speed as well. Make it more of an interesting item.

PopcornBunni10/12/2017, 6:14:58 PM1 votes

Since I always use the item in conjunction with item 3812 and item 3065 , I'd much rather it give more armor. 100 or 110. The unique passive is fine as-is since it combines with the other item 3082 upgrades, but the other two upgrades are what I think could use adjustments.

Currently, item 3075 and item 3143 together are really gold inefficient for the redundant passives, but are often too necessary for lifesteal and crits of marksmen. To combat this, it would be nice to see each of the two offer something extra from the passive, so the best of both apply when stacked.

item 3075 is still weak compared to bramblevest, so it could stand to have its coldsteel apply a stronger attack speed slow. It's meant to strrongly discourage attacking its wearer afterall. Give it a 30% AS slow when procced.

item 3143 has an active movement speed slow, so maybe give its coldsteel a 15% movement speed slow when procced as well.

With this, all three item 3082 items could be used without wasting gold.

PhearBunny10/12/2017, 7:45:32 PM1 votes

Frozen Heart.

Glacial Shroud, Catalyst, MR Cloak. 35 Armor. 45 MR. 350health 300mana 15% cdr* oooo new

Passive- abilities apply a stack of glacial freeze on target or targets, each stack slows the enemies movement speed by 15% per stack. up to 3 stacks or 45%. Lasts 2seconds, reapplication refreshes duration. Passive- Reduces the attack speed of nearby enemies

I like the idea of it being a Tanks Frozen Mallet, or Ryalis

Variks the Loyal10/12/2017, 7:51:47 PM1 votes

Frozen Heart isn't unappealing because it doesn't have health, it's the oversaturation of CDR.

For example, all MR tank items have CDR. All of them. item 3001 item 3065 item 3194

All tanky-Support items have CDR. item 3109 item 3050 item 3800

Finally, a lot of Fighter items have CDR. item 3071 item 3078 item 3812

And also Warmogs has CDR. item 3083

Most Tank items without CDR also don't have Health. item 3193 item 3190

Frozen Heart was a good item because it provided a LOT of Armor, a lot of Mana, and a lot of CDR. Now that one of it's special niches is gone, it's underwhelming as a whole.

Combine that with the fact that other Armor based items don't have CDR, and Frozen Heart is even less attractive over those options. You get all the CDR you need from the MR/Supp items. item 3075 item 3143 item 3742 item 3068

Frozen Heart doesn't need any more buffing (The 10 Armor was warranted a long time ago), CDR needs to be reduced across the board.

Personally, I'd take CDR out of Warmogs, Adaptive Helm, and Righteous Glory.