Riot you have a decision to make, Nerf these joke "support" champs or change the role

rtbf214552814··3 votes·984 views

this is getting ridiculous Brand Lux Malzahar Zyra are ruining the balance of bot lane and shouldnt be allowed to exist in a role they werent meant for. look at zyra who has been super unfair for MULTIPLE patches now, she kills you without even interacting with her lane opponents, just rename the champ to plants and azir to soldiers since you arent playing against the champ you are playing against some non sense that they spawn. now we got these classic lux and brand supports that die instantly and have super obvious skill sets around how they are going to play while bringing a toxic playstyle to bot lane, its already annoying dealing with Jhin every match anyways but have him and one of these joker "supports" is making the game insanely unfair and frustrating.

The point of a support in my eyes is someone who provides stats and/or tankiness to provide peel for the carry to be able to exist and play off that in lane, for example thresh/blitz/naut/leona/braum/alistar they soak up damage while distracting/cc the enemy so the carry can get a healthy trade in lane. this is how i see how the support role should only be also including healing type supports that i didnt mention. The core problem is that these mage "supports" are allowed to do insane amounts of damage while being able to outclass the tradition supports without much counterplay.

In conclusion, tradition supports are how riot should improve or add more of and get rid of these toxic champs that dont belong bot lane.

-Salty scumbag toxic riven player

8 Comments

Very Hard Engage2 votes

well theres no reason to keep your ADC from harm when you can sac half their health and give him 600 gold in the process.

damage has been inflated across the board, deal with it.

SettDownShutUp1 votes

No doubt. Damage is up, but with it there needs to be counter-balance. If the full supports aren't able to do their job, it raises the question of why? I could point out how Taric's heal is shit, Braum's base cooldowns are too high, and how Soraka early game is as fun as blood letting but there's smarter people than me to make those decisions.

Zielmann1 votes

The counter-balance is shields, which are also reaching levels of absurdity not seen before, thanks to item 3107 +item 3190 +item 3222 +item 3504 . Those items are why things like Karma and Janna are still seeing decent success as traditional supports.

TheAzeban2 votes

What is Riot going to do, make it to where you can only play certain champions in certain lanes? That is pathetic, one of the funniest parts of the game is trying out new things. Everyone complained about MF support, but honestly, it was not that good. Any competent support can literally pick 1 champion out of nearly a dozen that would counter mf in lane. Basically any pull skill or any tank would win against that lane.

Sure, they do alot of damage. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. It makes me roll my eyes whenever i see a post like this, because nearly every game i have been in where someone picks one of these champs on the enemy team, my teams support will pick a squishy champion, or counter themselves. That, or the people will not build any defensive items, and go full damage and expect to not take any.....

To win in this game, sometimes you gotta learn when to be, as well as not to be, selfish.

Also, it's not always about how much damage you can do. You might be able to crit for 2000, but two hits and your dead doesnt help your team. Sometimes it is best to be able to withstand some damage.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

These champions are not a real supports just like Blitz, Leona, Nautilus are also not a real supports. Actually you should be able to outstat and kill the squishy mage supp with the kill lane tank supports. But Blitz/Naut/Leona is fine bot, but the mages aren't? Isn't this unfair? The Lol meta is already super boring compared to the other mobas where you don't really know where the characters are going. If you remove the non-supports from bot, where are they going? They are usually bad midlaners (the mages) and bad toplaners/junglers (the tanks)?

Sturdy Ghost2 votes

I disagree completely, the purpose and role of a support is in its' title to support the rest of the team. It does not in ANY way dictate how you are supposed to assist your team. Lux and Zyra for example are both very valid supports. Lux offers more utility in her shield and slow from her E whereas Zyra offers larger zoning and peeling factor along with passive damage. Saying that having a damage support isn't a real support is invalid, in order to be effective as a damage dealer you need to outscale the enemy and get gold, if a zyra support doesn't accomplish her role early on at being oppressive and getting her lane a lead early then she will fall off to any player that knows how to deal with her. "traditional" supports are much stronger mid game than these damage supports IF they don't feed their lane. Obviously if you feed the zyra early on due to not knowing how to deal with her of course she will outscale you in the mid game thats how a standard game works. Classifying certain champs as a "real support" is purely opinion and this is coming from a thresh, nautilus, taric support main. All of which are still incredibly viable right now. And I disagree, as a zyra support you give up utility to have that damage, if you are a thresh building those items correctly you in no way should be able to 1v1 the squishy damage dealers, merely contain them long enough for your damage dealers to obliterate them. You are very much misusing the purpose of each support in your argument.

Dirty Bastard1 votes

Riot does not impart the meta, the players do. Take any of those away, and just watch who is placed next in bot lane. It changes nothing.

Don't for one minute think you can dictate what champs anyone else should be able to play in any role or lane, if it works it will happen.

Your a "Riven player", we should have to deal with Riven and her nonsense bs'ness but you don't like it when the support meta moves a little and is challenging.

Now that is funny.

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

double kill lane, i mean why nerf them? you would have to nerf blitz aswell hes an op top laner with a pull and a high damage low cd ult if he builds ap

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