5 Year Old Champs Still Cost 6300 BE..

DynamiteGazelle·2/12/2018, 6:12:46 AM·78 votes·8,446 views

"Oh, Warring Kingdoms Vi is pretty cool! Maybe I'll get her so I can buy the skin. She's a 4800, right? Checks store 6300!? When did she come out..? Does research Five years ago!?"

Nami Vi Both released in December 2012. Still cost 6300. Thresh Quinn Zac Lissandra Released in early 2013. All 6300 after 5 years.

The current spread of skins look like this:

32 - 6300 48 - 4800 24 - 3150 22 - 1350 13 - 450

A little top heavy if you ask me. This is why I still have quite a few champions to go after playing the game for over 5 years, and I purchased the $30 starter bundle too along with a couple individual champs on sale. I know Riot needs to make money and all that, but if you're anything but a hardcore player the rate of champion unlocks just seems too slow. And after the new Blue Essence system, it feels even slower (even if they claim it's technically not)

And when you really think about it, the different price tiers for champions seem pretty arbitrary. I mean it makes sense for new champions to cost more, but after a certain amount of time why should any one champion cost more than another? To a new player Ashe and Vi are equally unique and interesting characters, so why is their pricing so radically different (450 vs 6300)?

EDIT: I realize how the system works - when a new champ comes out a champion gets lowered a tier (although the rate of 4800 champions and below getting reduced is much slower), but I think there should be some kind of threshold, or Threshhold if you will, where after a certain amount of time a champion is lowered to a baseline price. It just makes more sense

81 Comments

Destaice2/12/2018, 6:46:11 AM36 votes

Older champion prices are reduced per new champion release, not by age of the champion.

TheMysticWar2/12/2018, 11:13:45 AM13 votes

Nami will be 4800 next new champ

DingDongDanger2/12/2018, 10:45:04 AM13 votes

I 100% agree. My friends keep arguing that the blue essence system is faster but that's complete BS. It takes me like 8 hours of playing to get almost 2 levels and in my capsules it's usually 240 essence champs x_x' whereas before you got points just for playing and they added up drastically faster imo.

DeathBurst2/12/2018, 7:23:07 PM10 votes

They reduce the price of the oldest 6300 champ each time a new champ is released. That means the number of 6300 champs remains constant over time.

See this article: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202083304-Permanent-Champion-Price-Reduction

Vi will be reduced to 4800 not with the next new Champ release but with the one after that. Nami is next champ.

kattzkitti2/12/2018, 6:40:55 AM7 votes

They only reduce prices of a single old(er) champion at new champion launches, unless that's changed in the past year or so.

verdíture2/12/2018, 6:47:44 AM7 votes

they should just make it so you get BE each match like you did IP it would make this all a lot more better for everyone.

Escheton2/12/2018, 4:12:45 PM6 votes

Yeah, but why do you need all champions? Most likely there are quite a few you just don't have a feel for. And given how free weeks work, you will have plenty of time to find that out without needing to buy the champion.

XxDRAGONsAK47xX2/12/2018, 12:54:59 PM6 votes

At the rate of me acquiring champions, I should have them all in 5 years.

Not ok

H00KIE2/12/2018, 3:38:24 PM5 votes

I made a thread about this too. This 'reduce on release' shit is a garbage system. Characters that are over 2 years old should get their price reduced. It's been 5 years and those champs are still 6300? Is that really how slow they pump out new champions?

Do something about this. I shouldn't have to either grind for like 40 games to get 6300 essence for a season 3 character. And if you're going to make it so I can straight up buy champions, it shouldn't cost 10 bucks for one 6300 BE character. Every other MOBA I've played the champs are all together either free, or they cost ingame currency but it doesn't take a millennia to earn like on this game.

Like HOTS for example, people are up in arms if a character is still priced as if they were new if they came out a year ago! But on this game champions are literally half a decade old and still full price??? Ridiculous.

Sonasaurous2/12/2018, 1:08:08 PM5 votes

Yeah, I recently got the Demon Vi skin shard, and I was like "bet, I really like this skin and I want to try out Vi!" but I have like....200 BE or something? Idk, I haven't actually checked, but I know I don't have enough to get Vi because I did the math and figured at my weekly rate of play, I wouldn't have enough BE to unlock Vi until probably the summer, and in that time I have a better chance of randomly getting her champion shard than actually getting enough BE to unlock her, and by then I'll probably be able to just buy the skin on sale...

So I rerolled the skin shard and got that dumbass MMO Gragas skin and I hate my life.

Altonius Amakiir2/12/2018, 6:47:48 PM4 votes

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202083304-Permanent-Champion-Price-Reduction#top Was looking up champion pricings and found this, seems relevant.

Chroud2/12/2018, 8:23:38 PM3 votes

Because Red Heads are Beautiful and do not lose there value! :)

TonyTonyMordecai2/12/2018, 5:18:25 PM3 votes

I've said the same thing as well as a main criticism of the pricing system, unfortunately they are based on new champion releases only. If they were based on new champs and VGUs then it might even out the prices.

Pinkaj2/13/2018, 12:14:10 AM3 votes

Omg I agree with you. Pisses me off so much. I've been wanting to buy Zac for a while but it just takes too long. Why go for him when I can buy Warwick?

Linna Excel2/12/2018, 11:30:58 PM3 votes

This is because riot isn't making new champs anymore. If riot was making new champs, expensive ones would cycle down as newer ones replaced them in the 6300 bracket.

But hey, at least we are getting reworks that totally disrupt and dominate the pro-game meta to make up for it. Galio

KuraSei2/12/2018, 5:12:28 PM2 votes

Yeah I truly hate this. Would have bought Leona LONG ago if she wasn't so expensive

OniZetsu6662/12/2018, 3:44:01 PM2 votes

They way they should have it is the way that paladins did it. Have the champs priced at the higher amount for a while (for this game I wanna say max 6 months) and then have all champs have an equal price. I think that the 3150 price seems fair for all champs. Then make it so that people can get be from playing games as well as keeping the current system. Just make the be a small amount like 5 or 10 be per game. That way if you grind games you can see some pay off and not just get a small amount of be from the capsules alone.

NotSpecialDude2/12/2018, 6:36:02 PM2 votes

Honestly, I don't think the rate or grind is the issue, because playing the game to unlock more game is a good unlock system. The issue is that you can feel like you "wasted" essence on a champion. To put into perspective, I can't playHeimerdinger to save my life. I hate playing him, but I didn't know that I hated him until AFTER I played him. The only way you can try out a champion is if they go on free week, of which no one knows who gets on each week. Skin shards allowing for a free trial is a decent start in the right direction, but redeeming shards is hella cheap so if you have the shard it be better to do that instead.

A renting system would be awesome.

Jobriq2/14/2018, 12:24:07 AM2 votes

champ shards are given out like candy tho and u can upgrade for half

OmegaNITRO12/5/2018, 10:27:21 PM1 votes

I took full advantage back when you could reroll champ shards for champs. Own every champ now and about 50k BE.

I recommend just getting champs through shards. If I had to do it now, disenchanting shards of the champs I have for BE for the shards of champs I don't would probably have gotten me a third or even half of the way there by now.

You don't have completely free choice on when you get which champs, but the discount is better than spending 6300.

StpTlkinAnBndOvr2/13/2018, 5:40:46 AM1 votes

when league dies im going to fcking party. fuck you rito. Im lvl 78 and i barely own half the champs. seems legit