Match making attempts to force us to ~50% winrate, riot justifies champ balance by winrate....

No they do, I made a post about this.

They put absolute braindead monkeys on your team once every 3-4 games. Before that point, both teams winrates are pretty equal.

This is my first season trying to actually climb, and this has been made abundantly clear to me.

Normally, I make it to Gold just for rewards and stop playing ranked. This season I wanted to try for Plat, and it's been interesting to say the least. For 4 seasons I've easily made it to Gold, and I was cruising through my games until it felt like I hit a wall at high Gold. I just had a series of unwinnable games. My teammates did not want to win. So many people were either trolling because they're tilted or completely disillusioned.

Unfortunately, you're not rated on how you perform individually in the ranked system. You gain and lose LP based on your opponents combined MMR rating. It's a team game after all, but I think this creates a bunch of problems and just makes everyone feel powerless.

You could do well in your match, but if someone is feeding, trolling, or going AFK. Then the system is not going to reflect that.

You might as well be the one doing badly because the loss is going to be the same for everyone and will not be a personal reflection of how you performed.

Even when you win these games, it feels absolutely awful. I won a 4v5 last night at Gold 1. Our Renekton connected, then disconnected at the start of the match and never came back. So we already thought it was going to be a loss, but I kept trying to do my best.

This Katarina won her lane and I was able to get her fed and keep her alive, but unfortunately our Vayne didn't want to try. She went AFK several times and would not group with us until we finally killed everyone and got baron. By then it was clear momentum was on our side, but she played no role in getting us there. To be honest, our jungler didn't help much either, but at least he was trying. He stayed near base working to stop a backdoor and split pushing.

It's so frustrating to see games like this. I ended the match 4/6/26 with the highest vision score in the game plus healed way more damage than any of them did and the Kat ended the game 26/8/6 with 51k damage, but the 4/5/6 Vayne who only did 15k damage in a 33 minute game gets to collect her free LP based solely on the MMR of her opponents.

A match that I won where the odds were stacked against me and I did exceptionally well in ended up leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

[sg-lulu]

Tell me mate. Rn=Ro+K(W-We) Exactly what part of this forces some one to 50% rather the guides them to where they achieve 50%?

By all means please support your claim with some proof other then "trust me guys". I doubt you can.

Silver and plat players can't queue together but apparently Riot can match them in the same game

makes sense

"bUt It'S bAsEd On MmR aNd NoT rAnK!" https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.608411842.4077/pp,840x830-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg

Then why the fuck can't I see my MMR? Are you telling me my silver friend with gold MMR can't queue with my gold MMR plat account because of a rank that doesn't mean anything? Just say that to yourself again. Riot Knights defend this matchmaking system with that excuse, all the time, it's based on MMR and not rank. Sounds fair, makes sense, but uh,

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/204010760-Ranked-Play-FAQ#h1q1

WHY IS THE RESTRICTION BASED ON RANK AND NOT MMR? WHY CAN'T WE SEE OUR MMR?

basic math alone says its rigged

how many millions of players all have around 50% winrate?

you realize every 1% closer to 50% winrate, in a perfect world, your games would be completely equal on skill yet the skill disparities i see, is insane....every game

i did a test of this one time and fed for 30 straight games, i beg you to try and afk 30 games and tell me you dont win 1/10 of them...without even playing

its rigged, there is a reason they throw up an invisible system and say we got it

look at their client, you think they "got it"? 6 months on eternals........got it?

I miss when there was the option in ranked to actually pick a role or search for a specific role so you actually got people on your team that wanted to play said role. None of this autofilled so I afk bullshit. Even if queues took longer, you actually got better teams because people were in the role they were good at.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9891xYXcAIJgoo.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De3qNwyWAAAompM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PWpM80J.jpg https://external-preview.redd.it/Wx_mz6aQzsOp84HXswOOWC8ySTErdwM__r_AhQr5A6Y.png?width=1023&height=535.602094241&auto=webp&s=c17e2b2a8b4bc2bf4dbf476376ef65754a9b6244 https://wrestlingblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Climbing-Ranked-With-quotSmurfquot-Champions.jpg https://preview.redd.it/m1iprrowipa31.png?auto=webp&s=08a4017cecd1427c67f538c11a524590c009bab7 https://i.imgur.com/KliBUOS.jpg

so when are you going to accept that you are actually bad at the game and you don't deserve to be promoted to a higher elo?

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/kp1FytKV-so-is-climbing-based-on-skill-or-is-based-on-whom-you-get-as-team-mates I did this a while back about climbing.

I concure with the original poster. I don't care about all the "volunteers" that try to defend Riot.

I am playing this game since Quinn was released - early 2013. I have an account with all the heroes, and a lot of skins / goodies.

I am really sick of it now and ready to give it all up. I will STOP playing this piece of junk and move to something else. This is not blackjack. I don't care what all the fanboys are saying - the 50-50% forced win / loss ratio it's true.

To prove myself a point ... I tried TO LOOSE indefinitely ARAM games. Just try it. Even with 2 friends. You cannot loose more than about 10 games. Even if 3 of you go afk - you will still win. Because Riot wants 50/50%. The other players will be bots at that point but you CANNOT loose forever. If you try you will win / loose equal amounts (I repeat even if you bring 2 friends and try to loose everything).

SO ... Let's not talk shit. They are doing this intentionally, and I am sick of it. The game is nice and good but the matchmaking is R%%%%%ED. Ranked quality is shit for that matter. Playing with 2 irons against 2 platinum and 1 gold ... Isn't nice. But riot wants me to loose after a 5 game winning streak. I also know and predict also a winning streak (no matter how bad I play) after a loosing streak. Planned to do the loosing streak in "normal draft" and use the "winning streak" that comes after (100%) in ranked. But doesn't work. The streaks are in their separate queues.

I don't think I will hurt anyone, but going to another game. I will hurt them as best as I can - with my wallet. Not paying anymore a company that does this.

Bye now. Have fun in a 50/50% forced game. We might aswell toss a coin - and have a better chance of randomness.

You can see their matchmaking is flawed (intentionally?) in Normals, where as a silver-ish player one time you get a Diamond guy in your team, and the time after (saying) in the enemy team.