So i rush frozen heart against illaoi

MunchCrunchLunch·Jun 21, 2016·3 votes·896 views

and she does 1200 fucking damage. in 1.5 SECONDS? WHICH FUCKING JUGGERNAUT. NO. which fucking champion. in the game. does that much damage. shes a juggernaut. not a hypercarry. holy shit. I literally. shat myself when I lost 90% of my health as an ulting nasus that rushed frozen heart and had scaling armor runes at level 10.

are you kidding me? you don't even need to stay in her ultimate because she blows you up in one second. what the hell is this?

I mean. she had an extra kill on me. but I had an extra 40 -50 cs or so. and i was a level higher.

16 Comments

redniwediSJun 21, 20167 votes

First off she's an AD caster. Attack speed slows do little to nothing against her.

Secondly if you walked up to a Juggernaut and expected to not take a whole bunch of damage I'm not sure you completely understand what Juggernauts are.

You walk up to Darius and you're going to take a lot of damage. You walk up to Garen and you're going to take a lot of damage. You walk up to Nasus and you're going to take a lot of damage. Notice a pattern here? You should, and it applies to Illaoi as well.

MunchCrunchLunchJun 21, 20162 votes

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First off she's an AD caster. Attack speed slows do little to nothing against her.

Secondly if you walked up to a Juggernaut and expected to not take a whole bunch of damage I'm not sure you completely understand what Juggernauts are.

You walk up to Darius and you're going to take a lot of damage. You walk up to Garen and you're going to take a lot of damage. You walk up to Nasus and you're going to take a lot of damage. Notice a pattern here? You should, and it applies to Illaoi as well.

are you fucking telling me that darius. garen and every juggernaut in the game deals a nuke aoe damage to everyone. Darius has to stack up his ult. to do damage. darius. doesn't nuke you for 80% of your health at level 4 with a q and W. are you kidding me son?

why the fuck is she as juggernaut doing as much damage in a game as teemo? what is this madness. I don't care about why. but it shouldn't be happening. she is a hypercarry and she shouldn't be

redniwediSJun 21, 20167 votes

are you fucking telling me that darius. garen and every juggernaut in the game deals a nuke aoe damage to everyone.

No. Look at what I said. Don't read into it, just read it at face value.

Every Juggernaut does a lot of damage if you get close to them. Each one does their damage in a different way, but they all do a lot of damage if you walk up to them.

MunchCrunchLunchJun 21, 20162 votes

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No. Look at what I said. Don't read into it, just read it at face value.

Every Juggernaut does a lot of damage if you get close to them. Each one does their damage in a different way, but they all do a lot of damage if you walk up to them.

what is the last time darius did 1200 damage in 1.2 secconds in top lane at level 8 in a 1v1? when you rushed frozen heart and had 180 armor and he has only half a black cleaver?. what was the last time skarnaer did that or garen did that? can you name any.

redniwediSJun 21, 20166 votes

I don't need to name any times, because you're being overly specific when you don't have to be.

All Juggernauts have three things in common; high defense, high offense, and low mobility. This is a recognized fact. You fight against a Juggernaut and you have to expect you'll be taking a lot of damage.

You didn't respect the damage Illaoi is capable of dishing out and you paid the price. Frozen heart won't save you from not respecting the damage of any Juggernaut mate. Armor alone won't save you from disrespecting a Juggernaut.

CaítlynJun 21, 20161 votes

Hey its this baddie.

Basically its use 5 ranged champs or you die. Balanced.

redniwediSJun 21, 20166 votes

If you're going to follow me between threads could you at least pay attention to the conversation at hand? Is that too much to ask for?

ErockandrollJun 21, 20162 votes

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No. Look at what I said. Don't read into it, just read it at face value.

Every Juggernaut does a lot of damage if you get close to them. Each one does their damage in a different way, but they all do a lot of damage if you walk up to them.

By Riot's definition, Nasus would also be a Juggernaut. So the whole match up was a Juggernaut v. Juggernaut fight.

If i had to measure such a match up though, I would put my money on Illaoi. Her tentacles give her powerful lane dominance. While Nasus' Damage is still locked away, since he needs his Q stacks. Not to mention that she has a lot more AoE, which can make laning pretty hard.

About your best bet would be to clear the tentacles when they showed up, and get stacks off of those, all while dodging her skill shots. (Good luck)

redniwediSJun 21, 20164 votes

As I said elsewhere in this thread each Juggernaut does damage differently. It's true that Illaoi does a lot of damage if you walk up to her, just as the same is true for Nasus.

The difference in this case is Nasus does his damage primarily later on in the game, where as most other Juggernauts do their damage at every stage.

Definitely have to agree with you though.

DefendedJun 21, 20161 votes

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are you fucking telling me that darius. garen and every juggernaut in the game deals a nuke aoe damage to everyone. Darius has to stack up his ult. to do damage. darius. doesn't nuke you for 80% of your health at level 4 with a q and W. are you kidding me son?

why the fuck is she as juggernaut doing as much damage in a game as teemo? what is this madness. I don't care about why. but it shouldn't be happening. she is a hypercarry and she shouldn't be

Illaoi is pretty bullshit honestly

MarshbouyJun 21, 20165 votes

Or you could not pull numbers out of your ass. She is balanced. you are salty.

rtbf202329206Jun 21, 20164 votes

You have to RESPECT Illaoi. Your fault.

NekusenJun 21, 20163 votes

So i rush frozen heart against illaoi

why?

unless you are Rammus (or have insane healing) for math reasons you should always get hp before armor

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are you fucking telling me that darius. garen and every juggernaut in the game deals a nuke aoe damage to everyone.

Juggernauts are champions that deal a crapton of damage and are nigh impossible to kill, whats confusing about that?

warpenguin555Jun 21, 20163 votes

Why would you rush frozen heart vs illoai?

ShinkoMinoriJun 21, 20161 votes

Someone doesn't like tentacle hentai.

JugglaJJun 21, 20161 votes

I do think that her tentacle damage does need a bit of tweaking done to it, but she isn't completely OP. She also can't do as much damage if you don't let her e land , and if it does, you have to just dodge the slams if you get the curse thing put on you. Yeah easier said than done, but that's her counter-play. You always have to destroy her tentacles too, it makes her E that much stronger if there are 2-3 tentacles to hit your spirit. Her aoe damage is really insane in team fights too but only if you let her get hits off, she needs to be in the center of your whole team, therefore, easily focused down, which needs to happen, because she will destroy your team if you just let her ult get off and let her proc her w a few times. She's in a pretty strong place, but she also doesn't see competitive play because she has obvious weaknesses and counter-play