Can we nerf Last whisper yet?

Keyoshi··5 votes·719 views

I'm tired of watching teams win because of this item. Couple games now our team completely destroys team fights but as soon as someone gets lw, the game changes completely. This is complete uttercrap. If your team is behind, then you should stay behind and not get rewarded because of 1 item.

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SanKakU3 votes

If you don't want it to wreck you, you've got two options:

Don't build armor OR Build even more armor

Keyoshi2 votes

lol i find it funny that tanks get punished for the stats they need to buy.

Zmuecat1 votes

It's not like tank have a bunch of different scaling stats that go along with armor.

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Wait, nevermind, but wouldn't that help if they had more abilities scaling with defenses?

Phife2 votes

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If you don't want it to wreck you, you've got two options:

Don't build armor OR Build even more armor

lmao, on fuckin' point!

AbstracT Theory2 votes

-----> thornmail. If they want to do more damage to you then deal it right back ;). in order to survive thornmail you need 30% lifesteal, which is at least a bork and bloodthirster. even then they just break even and their lifesteal actually =0 since they take it all back. try it out, might help ya know.

2000boxes2 votes

isn't item scaling part of the game though? and why dont you buy the item yourself?

Keyoshi1 votes

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isn't item scaling part of the game though? and why dont you buy the item yourself?

why would i buy it as a gragas jungle?

Kitten of Evil1 votes

Most tanks don't really have a use for it.

Togekiss242 votes

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This is complete uttercrap. If your team is behind, then you should stay behind and not get rewarded because of 1 item.

Nah. One-sided matches are boring.

DrMarshSwamp2 votes

Personally I think if it stays the way it is the price should definitely be increased.

Blastermine1 votes

Do people honestly think that LW is somehow ineffective against targets that didn't buy armor?

Here is a hint, use armor pen marks and quints and rush item 3134 item 3035 on an AD caster.

Keyoshi1 votes

I'm just saying. 40% before the flat armor pen is ridiculous. Should just be a flat bonus pen.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

sounds like to me you threw way too many games lol welp gg, they got first blood ff20 we're behind now and this is where we outa stay

Kuroi861 votes

A. There's a definitive lack of evidence proving that the item is too strong.

B. If you were destroying in team fights up to that point, then you did something WAY wrong, one item doesn't make that much of a difference, EVER.

C. No team should stay behind, smart play and careful actions can and should give you a window to turn the game around. Otherwise what would be the point?

As for the person that wants to say my point A is wrong. 100 armor means you have 100% effective health, double your effective health. This also means you're taking half damage from physical sources. Last Whisper ignores 35% of your armor. To still have 100 effective armor, that is 50% physical damage reduction, you only need 55 more armor. This is easily possible by any tank. At 310 you still have 200 effective armor, that is 300% effective health, I believe that comes out to 60-75% physical damage reduction.

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