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Okay, I need some help

Spitemaster·12/20/2016, 3:35:36 AM·3 votes·1,239 views

I play support. As support, Fizz is my least favourite champion. Why? Because when Fizz is in the game, there is nothing I can do to affect him. I cannot land cc unless he makes a mistake, and I can't consistently land poke. Once he's at my adc, it's too late for me to apply any cc. If I'm playing a tanky support, I can block his fish, but that's it.

This isn't to say I think he's overpowered - I can sometimes protect my adc from his burst long enough for my teammates to kill Fizz by directly shielding them. I don't think that I lose against Fizz more often than not. I also realize that he can have a difficult time farming, but that's not relevant because I never lane against him.

The champions I frequently play: Leona The most frustrating matchup, as Leona's E doesn't function as expected against Fizz. If Fizz is the last champion hit and he uses his pole, the dash does not trigger. I'm of the opinion that this should be changed. For comparison, Leona still dashes if she hits Vlad and he pools. Her ult is difficult to land against Fizz because of his multiple dashes. Karma Lux Skillshots are not great against Fizz - I don't expect either of these to be good matchups. Nautilus His ult is worthless against Fizz, unless I blow everything to hit him. But by the time that I do, it's usually too late to prevent him from dropping all of his damage. Sona No cc other than her unreliable ult (because a decent Fizz will react fast enough)

What is there that I can do in the 40% of games that I'm not banning?

14 Comments

Eedat12/20/2016, 3:43:56 AM2 votes

Because when Fizz is in the game, there is nothing I can do to affect him.

Point and click summoner 3.

SchmidttyGames12/20/2016, 3:58:52 AM2 votes

Zyra works well against most of the really annoying champions. For the Support Role, she is a heavy poker with a single snare, but her ultimate combined with a plant or three can swing any fight.

Add Rylai's to her plants and he won't want to come near you.

Oh, and summoner 3 , as otherwise recommended.

cTrix12/20/2016, 9:40:52 AM2 votes

Have your ADC not be an idiot and run headfirst into fizz's ult, that'd be a start.

What am I saying, we all know your adc is a monkey. Just try and ward the flanks so you know where he's trying to come in from. Shields and movespeed, and of course exhaust. And if you have CC, don't throw it out until Fizz uses his playful trickster (Sona ult for example). Your ADC might die, but you can make it a 1 for 1 if you at least stop fizz from getting out again.

Really, not dying is your ADCs responsibility. Not yours.

Alaric The Sic12/20/2016, 3:39:36 AM2 votes

Ugh he's not hard to deal with as a support tbh.

Alaric The Sic12/20/2016, 3:45:05 AM1 votes

Naut is probably the easiest champ In the world to play into fizz. Your auto stuns him. He can not walk passed you. He has to use both abilities to get by you. Wait for them. Pull. Auto. Ult. he's dead.

Kukan Seishin12/20/2016, 3:36:52 AM1 votes

It is all timing, he has to dive to be effective, he may or may not use is e for gap close or damage, depending on when, cc him always after he lands from his e, else it is all for not

RogueWill12/20/2016, 3:45:51 AM1 votes

just summoner 3 him....that is how I deal with champiosn like that. they are forced between dealing all their burst with lowered damage or wait the debuff to wore off and risk getting killed. Unless they are ridiculously ahead is usually a really difficult decision for them.