has an adc main who hates the meta ever been vs a renek or jayce?

if you get ganked or die once in lane u no longer get to cs.

with renekton you pretty much ask your jungle to sit top and just dive that person over and over and there is nothing that person can do.

with jayce you sit in the wave and just poke and burst the person to 100 hp everytime he walks into range.

tell me more about how ziggs is hitting u with his q's in lane when you're trying to cs.